# \*Smile!\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2001, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454 "2001-04-02T04:55:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2001, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/21 "2001-04-02T21:50:51Z")

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That guy really sounds like a creep. I certainly wouldn’t smile at him, as I doubt he is telling you to _smile_ because he cares.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/22 "2001-04-03T00:55:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> I often tell people to smile and cheer up even if I don’t know them. Does that make me have a condescending, sexist, insolent attitude?

No, but it does make you fucking annoying. Don’t do that.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/23 "2001-04-03T01:41:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Blackclaw \*  
> \*\*“Life can’t be that bad! Come on! Smile!”  
> \*\*

“My sister just died of cancer.”

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**Author:** ![DippityDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@DippityDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DippityDoo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/24 "2001-04-03T02:03:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Nimune \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> > I often tell people to smile and cheer up even if I don’t know them. Does that make me have a condescending, sexist, insolent attitude?
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> No, but it does make you fucking annoying. Don’t do that. \*\*

I’ll do whatever the fuck I want to do.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/25 "2001-04-03T02:27:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> \*\*I’ll do whatever the fuck I want to do. \*\*

Then don’t take it amiss when somebody tells you to go felch a donkey. Now turn that frown upside down! Did you know it takes less muscles to smile than to frown? Have a nice day! Smile! 😃

Remember, that proud statement of defiance applies to **shell** too.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/26 "2001-04-03T02:53:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> \*\*I’ll do whatever the fuck I want to do. \*\*

Gee, don’t like people telling you what to do? Get yourself a magnet and see if you can find the irony here.

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**Author:** ![DippityDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@DippityDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DippityDoo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/27 "2001-04-03T02:53:22Z")

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I never told **shell** what to do. I’m more pissed with the fact that she stereoyped this guy and called him a waste of a good abortion. What makes her the supreme commander of everyone? I’d like her to explain this to me and then and only then would she ever get an apology from me. I highly doubt that’ll happen.

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**Author:** ![Nocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@Nocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nocturne)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/28 "2001-04-03T03:01:20Z")

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DippityDoo, I think the OP’s intention was to let off steam. I know when I vent, I tend to exaggerate, just to get the annoyance off my chest.

Maybe it’s not worthy of any explanation beyond that to you. Your making demands seems to run almost parallel to the guy who wants shell to keep smiling. I don’t think hostility is going to get you anywhere in this situation.

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**Author:** ![DippityDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@DippityDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DippityDoo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/29 "2001-04-03T03:08:28Z")

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Maybe so Nocture but as far as saying someone is a waste of a good abortion? Fuck that. She crossed the lines of common decency with that. I’ll stick to my position no matter what.

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**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/30 "2001-04-03T03:25:32Z")

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Stolen from someone’s sig:

It takes 43 muscles to frown, but only 17 to smile. Therefore, smiling people are lazy people!

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/31 "2001-04-03T03:29:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> \*\*Maybe so Nocture but as far as saying someone is a waste of a good abortion? Fuck that. She crossed the lines of common decency with that. I’ll stick to my position no matter what. \*\*

Okay, so she could’ve called him a motherfucking buttlicking goat-enema-giving stupid dickheaded smiley-faced wanker, and you’d’ve been cool with that?

I can’t even see why you’re getting upset over that particular insult. Are you a pro-lifer? Then you should be glad he wasn’t aborted. Are you pro-choice? Then what does it matter? Seriously, I’m confounded. Would ‘waste of air’ be any better to you? It’s an insult, and it’s not even directed at you or anyone you know. Let it go, dippy, it ain’t worth nothin’.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/32 "2001-04-03T03:35:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> \*\*Maybe so Nocture but as far as saying someone is a waste of a good abortion? Fuck that. She crossed the lines of common decency with that. \*\*

1. This is the Pit. Whether or not you agree with the OP, she is using it for its intended purpose. I’ve only seen the “line of decency” crossed in the Pit one time since I have been posting to these boards. As for the phrase used in the OP…I’ve seen it used in rants by other posters more times than I can count.

2. There are seven other forums you can visit on the SDMB. If you don’t like the language, insults, etc. traded in the Pit, then don’t even bother to look at it.

3. Hi there, Opal.

4. Having once started a Pit thread similar to the OP, I can say that the variety of insults used was just the poster’s way of conveying her sheer disgust with this man. Yeah, the insults may have been harsh. But so are the OP’s feelings toward this man.

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**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/33 "2001-04-03T03:36:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> \*\*Maybe so Nocture but as far as saying someone is a waste of a good abortion? Fuck that. She crossed the lines of common decency with that. I’ll stick to my position no matter what. \*\*

Look, dipshit, she didn’t call YOU a waste of a good abortion. She vented about some annoying guy who told her to smile. Many people, in this thread and the one I linked to, see ordering someone to smile as an invasive, aggressive, irritating act. She doesn’t owe YOU an apology. If you think she “crossed the lines of common decency”, email a mod. Or challenge her to a duel of puns. Or anything but repeating this irritating chorus.

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**Author:** ![DippityDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@DippityDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DippityDoo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/34 "2001-04-03T03:41:50Z")

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Okay, so she could’ve called him a motherfucking buttlicking goat-enema-giving stupid dickheaded smiley-faced wanker, and you’d’ve been cool with that? [\quote]

Yes as a matter of fact I would have been cool with that. Saying someone is a waste of a good abortion or a waste of air isn’t right in my book. I saw something that pissed me off and I took a stand for it much as in the same way shell is. She could have made any comment at all other than about her wishing this guy dead and I would have been cool with it. Secondly she stereotpyed and then did it again. Again I saw something i disagreed with and took a stand for it.

Other than that I’ve got no real beef with shell or the op. I do have a problem with her bashing naturally happy people. She doesn’t know this guy. She can’t make a good judgement about this guys character and whether or not he is something.

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Oh, and do you have to smile that smug, patronizing smile every time you command me? What am I to you? Some chunk of feminine meat that must adhere to your supremely fucked up idea of what women should do? Why don’t you take your condescending, sexist, insolent attitude and suck it right back up your buns! [\quote]

That is where my main problem lies with shell.

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**Author:** ![DippityDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@DippityDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DippityDoo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/35 "2001-04-03T03:44:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by magdalene \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> > \*\*Maybe so Nocture but as far as saying someone is a waste of a good abortion? Fuck that. She crossed the lines of common decency with that. I’ll stick to my position no matter what. \*\*
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> Look, dipshit, she didn’t call YOU a waste of a good abortion. She vented about some annoying guy who told her to smile. Many people, in this thread and the one I linked to, see ordering someone to smile as an invasive, aggressive, irritating act. She doesn’t owe YOU an apology. If you think she “crossed the lines of common decency”, email a mod. Or challenge her to a duel of puns. Or anything but repeating this irritating chorus.
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Did I once fucking say she called me a waste of a good abortion? Nope I think not. Fuck trying to reason with you people. I do not give a shit anymore.

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**Author:** ![Billy\_Rubin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billy_rubin/32/3622_2.png) [@Billy\_Rubin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Rubin)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/36 "2001-04-03T03:48:11Z")

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I’ve also heard that it takes 43 muscles to smile, but only something like seven or eight to reach out and bitch-slap that mutha upside the head.

Retail sucks, Shell, I feel for you. Most “customers” don’t get the idea: find what you want, take it to the counter, pay for it, leave. This is a convenience store, not Starbucks.

Take heart in the fact that you know everyone’s dirty little secrets. When you see Mr happiness at the mall, especially with his S.O., you can remind him loudly that the new “Goat lover’s monthly” is in, and he should stop in for the copy he asked you to save.

And next time he tells you to smile, tell him he’s funny looking, but it’s not THAT funny.  
b.

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**Author:** ![City\_Gent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a87d85/32.png) [@City\_Gent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/City_Gent)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/37 "2001-04-03T04:05:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> \*\*…the other 10% compare nothing to what you’ll ever know. \*\*

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/38 "2001-04-03T04:12:49Z")

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DippityDoo, I wouldn’t call you a waste of an abortion. I think botched abortion is more accurate and catchier. You’re also a sanctimonius prick. “Waste of air isn’t right in my book.” Fuck you and your book. People like you are the reason I’m not smiling in the first place. Think that’s a stereotype? Fuck yeah, it is. But since there’s no law against oppressing annoying little pieces of shit, I’m going to continue to stereotype your worthless ass until prevented by an Act of Congress.  
Billy Rubin:  
I always heard it as:  
“It takes more energy to frown than to smile”

I think it was Bill Hicks who said, regarding this homily, “It took more energy to tell me that than for you to shut the fuck up.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/39 "2001-04-03T04:27:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DippityDoo \*  
> Fuck trying to reason with you people. I do not give a shit anymore. \*\*

Promises, promises.

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**Author:** ![DippityDoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@DippityDoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DippityDoo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smile/60454/40 "2001-04-03T05:03:41Z")

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Ok I don’t exactly understand this because well this is the Pit and shell is allowed to bitch about things but I cannot? Fuck that those of you who are saying I should shut the fuck up, you are being hypocrits. What once person can bitch but another can’t? MY ass I’ll say what I want for the most part.

Nimune you like to stereotype do you? Well here is a stereotype for you. Quite simply put your a fucker and I could give a shit less about you. You can suck my hairy white ass all day long.

The fucking point I’m trying to get across to you people is that it’s the Pit she can rant and I can fucking rant about her ranting if I want to. Tell me where the fuck it says I can’t rant but anyone else can and I’ll stop. Other than that all of you can fuck off. I simply do not care.

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