# Smiley Voting - Round 1 - Poll 5

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 26, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933 "2002-05-26T17:15:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/1 "2002-05-26T17:15:46Z")

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**Adding a new smiley**  
We will be adding a new smiley at the SDMB. The smiley will be chosen by popular vote, using the approval method of voting (you can vote for more than one candidate, the candidate with the most votes will win - see [at this page](http://www.sciam.com/askexpert/math/math2.html) a description of approval voting by mathematician Sam Merrill.)  
**The polling process**  
We have 50 candidates. vBulletin limits the number of choices in a poll to 10. So the first round of voting will have 5 polls with 10 candidates each. You can vote for more than one candidate in each of the 5 polls in the first round. (Note that if you vote for _every_ candidate, the effect for determining the winner would be the same as if you had not voted at all.) This first round will last 7 days.

At end of 7 days, there will be a second-round poll with  
a) the winner in each of the five polls of the first round (five smilies)  
b) plus the top four vote-getters besides those five, treating all the polls as one  
c) and the “no new smilies” choice  
The second-round 10-choice poll that will also expire in 7 days and be conducted using approval voting.

If the winner of the second round is a category with two or more smilies (e.g. dubious has two submissions), there will be one final poll to choose the best smiley for that category, with an expiration date of five days.

If there are ties in any of the rounds of voting, the winner will be decided by Arnold Winkelried flipping a swiss coin (to have a double guarantee of swiss neutrality) to determine the winner.  
**Candidates**  
[List of candidates](http://home.earthlink.net/~awinkelried/smpoll1/). The table of submissions is divided by columns - the first column will be poll one for the first round, the second column will be poll two for the first round, etc…  
**Threads of interest**  
[Asking for smiley submissions in ATMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=114395)

[Practice poll in ATMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=117084) - **We strongly recommend that you experiment with vBulletin’s polling feature here before you start voting on smilies.**

[IMHO thread debating the most useful smiley](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=114883) - **This is the place to discuss which smiley is the “best” and/or worthy of your vote.**

[IMHO thread discussing the voting method](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=114877)

Let the best smiley win!

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2002, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/2 "2002-05-27T13:55:50Z")

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GO DUBIOUS! But I’m suspicious of the results.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2002, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/3 "2002-05-27T17:40:11Z")

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This heat may have the three strongest candidates. Dubious, Foil, and Highjack all have obvious uses and would all contribute to the SDMB.

I voted for all three, this time, but I’m partial to Tinfoil Hat.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/4 "2002-05-28T09:55:09Z")

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IMO dubious is the _only_ one of the 50 that actually has a useful place on the SDMB. And I’m even dubious about that one.

Tinfoil is pure insult and will no doubt lead to very tedious pile-ons in which people think it’s oh-so-funny just to post 50 of them.

Hijack could, I suppose, be useful to indicate a hijack - but only if you know that’s what the symbol means.

Just as long as we don’t end up with that bloody stupid smash thing in poll whatsit.

pan

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/5 "2002-05-28T11:18:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kabbes \*  
> \*\*  
> Tinfoil is pure insult and will no doubt lead to very tedious pile-ons in which people think it’s oh-so-funny just to post 50 of them.  
> \*\*

I saw Tinfoil as a shortcut for disassociating yourself from idiot ideas that you’re reciting: ferexample  
Hitler believed in a theory called “Cosmic Lunar Ice” :foil:

or

A aquantince of mine has decided to get a Ukranian Mail-Order-Bride because “American women are too agressive and demanding.” :foil:

I don’t see that :foil: would cause any more problems than :wally:

Fenris

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/6 "2002-05-28T15:04:11Z")

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And the Wally is what - underused? If it wasn’t for the fact that it’s _Wally_ we’re talking about, I’d be calling for the removal of that monstrosity too.

But you have given me a valid use for “foil”. Though I still think it’ll just be used for pit threads -

“Lok hwo stupid **MadBastard** he dosene’t even no propre logic :foil:”

“Yeah, what a idoit :foil”

“:foil: :foil: :foil:”

Go read something like the Darwin Awards Forum some time and see what happens when you provide morons with unfettered access to pretty pictures that give insta-flames.

I have the same problem but even _worse_ with Smashie.

pan

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/7 "2002-05-28T15:09:43Z")

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**kabbes** , what message board do you frequent? :wally

('course, I agree with the ‘insult-ness’ of foil, but now that Fenris has had a say I think I rather like it even more. Unfair to pit this up against dubious IMO)

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/8 "2002-05-28T16:09:53Z")

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Ah - if you are looking at what board I _frequent_… well. There can be only one.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/9 "2002-05-28T16:33:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kabbes \*  
> \*\*But you have given me a valid use for “foil”. Though I still think it’ll just be used for pit threads -  
> \*\*

I somewhat disagree: I think that while yes, it WILL be used in Pit threads, especially when it’s still new, one only needs to look at what happened to SweetWilly slapping :wally: after every response and the strongly negative response he got to see that the SDMB community won’t tolerate too much insult by smiley.

I think (after the newness wears off) it’ll end up being something akin to the IANAL phrase, meaning “I do not subscribe to this idea. Though I am presenting it straightforwardly, I hold it in contempt.”  
Fenris

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**Author:** ![Palve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Palve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palve)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/10 "2002-05-30T05:52:34Z")

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What’s with the LMAO? It looks like somebody put lipstick on a cyclops and gouged its eye out.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/11 "2002-05-31T01:52:22Z")

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Go Dubious! Wow. Rah rah rah!

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/12 "2002-05-31T19:05:32Z")

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Foil all the way!

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/13 "2002-05-31T22:34:31Z")

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ANYONE WHO DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE ABSOLUTE BRILLIANCE OF THE DUBIOUS SMILEY IS ON CRACK AND NEEDS TO LEAVE THIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW!!

Dubious smiley! SDMB! It is freaking destiny!

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smiley-voting-round-1-poll-5/110933/14 "2002-06-01T02:32:46Z")

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Cecil would use the dubious smiley. 'Nuff said.
