# Smirky McDouchebag lawsuit dismissed

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 26, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686 "2019-07-26T20:59:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/61 "2019-07-27T22:13:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> No it’s not. Ridiculous hyperbole like that is partially responsible for the far left being considered unhinged loons.

No worries octopus. They won’t come for you.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/62 "2019-07-27T22:20:52Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> As I already pointed out elsewhere;
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> If a kid wearing a ‘fuck racism’ got in the face of the Proud Boys, or some right wing militia guys, or people at a Trump rally, they’d beat the ever loving fuck out of that kid.
> 
> Then the right wing media and their politicians (and even Herr Trumpenfuhrer) would be claiming that he had it coming, that it was the natural consequences of their actions, that the kid was a moron and there was nothing to see here.
> 
> Then their media would be filled with opinion pieces, cartoons and memes making fun of the kid and portraying the same thing happening to other Democrats.  
> Yet if Smirky McLawsuit had been popped in the face by ANYONE, those same people would be pulling a Monty Pythonesque “come and see the violence inherent on the LEFT!” and calling for congressional hearings and more laws.
> 
> Like Mr. Octopus here, they’re total fucking hypocrites when it comes to this sort of thing. Glorifying and excusing their own violence and their own violent words while reacting with terror and outrage when fuck all nothings like this happen to their own people.

Hypocrite? I haven’t advocated violence for expressing points of view or attire. I’m not sure why you’d say that about me. Are there some unhinged folks on the right? Absolutely. The president himself doesn’t always seem to be inhabiting reality. I’m not sure how any of that justifies death threats on teens for wearing a hat though.

> [@enipla](#):
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> No worries octopus. They won’t come for you.

Probably not. Though I am pretty tan. Now, outside of illegal immigrants who’s being come after? And yes it’s shameful how those detained are being treated. But the US has never been known for civilized treatment of detained or imprisoned and I find that deeply troubling.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/63 "2019-07-27T22:26:03Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And the unhinged part is extreme leftists here and in social media who advocate violence over choice of clothing. Sad.

Actually it is more sad that you show others here that you can not read for comprehension, the example given pointed out at how that clothing made some extreme right wingers unhinged and then there was a native American that tried to defuse the situation among right wingers but he himself misunderstood a lot of what was going on.

As for advocating, that is not what is going on right now, I have seen a lot of leftists pointing at some stupid guys on the left that did that, but most from the left did notice that it was not good to advocate violence, it is just that it does remain an act of willful ignorance from the right to ignore what took place at the start, it was an extreme right wing group who advocated violence over that choice of clothing and many right wingers like you want to ignore that lesson.

Fine with me, the result is that many MAGAts continue to act blissfully in their ignorance of choosing to wear such divisive message, but that is ok by me since other people from the right, such as religious people, are also finding that the corruption coming from the groper in chief is not just about corruption about his business dealings.

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/64 "2019-07-27T22:30:00Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> No it’s not. Ridiculous hyperbole like that is partially responsible for the far left being considered unhinged loons.

Yes it is. I’m pretty middle of the road and have voted for more Republicans than Dems, but even I can see the the parallels between the Nazis and the shit Trump spews, and if you can’t you’re part of the problem.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/65 "2019-07-27T22:36:40Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> Yes it is. I’m pretty middle of the road and have voted for more Republicans than Dems, but even I can see the the parallels between the Nazis and the shit Trump spews, and if you can’t you’re part of the problem.

Repeating hyperbole isn’t going to help. Demonstrate the analogy is true. Has Trump waged wars of conquest? Do we have secret police and stormtroopers? Has the political opposition been outlawed? Has the state taken control of the media? Does the army have stylish uniforms?

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/66 "2019-07-27T22:38:06Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The expression everybody is trying to call “smug” could just as easily be perplexed nervousness.

When people get up in my face and cause me to feel perplexedly nervous, usually I say “screw this” and walk away to avoid pointless discomfort.

Unless I feel like making a point out of it. Then I stare them down with a vacant smirk on my face.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/67 "2019-07-27T22:38:27Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Repeating hyperbole isn’t going to help. Demonstrate the analogy is true. Has Trump waged wars of conquest? Do we have secret police and stormtroopers? Has the political opposition been outlawed? Has the state taken control of the media? Does the army have stylish uniforms?

No, but he has insisted that among the Nazis of today there are fine people too… :rolleyes:

And we know already what he thinks a president would like to do if his ratings go down among his base:

> **[Years before his all-caps Twitter threat, Trump used to accuse Obama of...](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/23/trump-accused-obama-of-wanting-war-with-iran.html)**
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> Despite his recent bellicose tweet, Trump used to express suspicions in prior tweets years ago that Obama would start a war with Iran "in order to get elected" to a second term.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/68 "2019-07-27T22:39:07Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Is there ever going to be a time when the right doesn’t use identity politics as a shield for their own inadequacies and transgressions?

I checked [the timeline](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future), but it didn’t extend far enough to include that event.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/69 "2019-07-27T22:39:29Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> No it’s not. Ridiculous hyperbole like that is partially responsible for the far left being considered unhinged loons.

> [@The widening national-pride gap between D's and R's](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-widening-national-pride-gap-between-ds-and-rs/836457/16):
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> Pointed out during the CNN commentary on [the] “Salute to America”: Trump’s speech painted a picture of an America that has _always_ been great so there’s no need to make America great _again_.
> 
> What was left unsaid: MAGA is simply a dog whistle for those who believe that America stopped being great when a person of color had the temerity to be elected President.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/70 "2019-07-27T22:41:19Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> When people get up in my face and cause me to feel perplexedly nervous, usually I say “screw this” and walk away to avoid pointless discomfort.

Good to know that you were so wise and level-headed when you were 16 years old.

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/71 "2019-07-27T22:44:12Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> No it’s not. Ridiculous hyperbole like that is partially responsible for the far left being considered unhinged loons.

> [@octopus](#):
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> Repeating hyperbole isn’t going to help. Demonstrate the analogy is true. Has Trump waged wars of conquest? Do we have secret police and stormtroopers? Has the political opposition been outlawed? Has the state taken control of the media? Does the army have stylish uniforms?

Stop moving the goalposts. Look at his behavior.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/72 "2019-07-27T22:54:23Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> Stop moving the goalposts. Look at his behavior.

What? Yep the goal posts have been moved all the way to the moon by the request for Nazi behavior that you agree that Trump is emulating. I’m not the one who made the ridiculous claim.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/73 "2019-07-27T23:24:12Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Repeating hyperbole isn’t going to help. Demonstrate the analogy is true. Has Trump waged wars of conquest? Do we have secret police and stormtroopers? Has the political opposition been outlawed? Has the state taken control of the media? Does the army have stylish uniforms?

In 1936 neither had Hitler done those things, for the most part. But he was working up to it. Don’t you think WWII and the Holocaust would have been different if people had stood up to Hitler before he got carried away?

The whole point of “Never Again” is to stop it before it starts, not lament it afterwards. Calling trump one his BS is trying to stop it before it gets out of hand.

The tighty righties get offended when people call the BP concentration camps “concentration camps”, complaining about the “unfair” comparison to Nazi Germany. They whine that it’s inflammatory to make such comparisons, as mass executions are not being done. But in 1936, Germany’s concentration camps hadn’t become death camps yet, either. They worked up to it.

We’re NOT going to let trump “work up to it”.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/74 "2019-07-27T23:27:01Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What? Yep the goal posts have been moved all the way to the moon by the request for Nazi behavior that you agree that Trump is emulating. I’m not the one who made the ridiculous claim.

As pointed before that is based on the support that Trump gave to the Nazis in Charlottesville and his racist tirades, and while you are trying to stop others from pointing that out by pulling a “Godwin”, lets check the word of God: 🙂

[“By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I’m with you.”](https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E896884949634232320&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-896884949634232320%26autosize%3D1) - Mike Godwin

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/75 "2019-07-27T23:31:44Z")

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> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#):
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> He’s 17 now. He was 16 then. And _of course_ it was all about the hat! Take the hat away and there’s literally nothing left.

Maybe if you ignore all the other teens, who were clearly his friends, surrounding him and mocking the Native Americans with chanting and racist tomahawk chips while he smiled, you’d have a point. But, alas, reality is a touch different.

> [@Unreconstructed man](#):
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> You never did anything stupid when you were a teenager? You never mouthed off to anyone? Never put a foot wrong? Never offended anyone? Never acted inappropriately? Fuck off.

I never supported out and out racist mocking of anyone.

> [@Man](#):
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> Like every one of the full grown adults shitting on this _child_, you almost certainly did _way_ worse stuff when you were his age. You were just lucky enough to live before Twitter, before your misdeeds could be broadcast to every self-righteous jerk-off from here to the fucking moon.

Yep. And is Smirky had apologized and went away instead of hiring a Republican PR firm, doing the right wing rounds, and trying to sue the media outlets that covered the news, I’d not have a problem with him. But, once again, reality is different.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/76 "2019-07-27T23:36:15Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> And my first reaction was, “What lawsuit did Mitch McConnell file?”
> 
> I mean, if you hear Smirky McDouchebag, why wouldn’t you think of Moscow Mitch?

I don’t know if he so much smirks, as just kind of jiggles his wattles. He barely moves his head, so it’s hard to notice, but the moving wattle momentum pulls the corners of his mouth a bit.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/77 "2019-07-27T23:45:34Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> In 1936 neither had Hitler done those things, for the most part. But he was working up to it. Don’t you think WWII and the Holocaust would have been different if people had stood up to Hitler before he got carried away?
> 
> The whole point of “Never Again” is to stop it before it starts, not lament it afterwards. Calling trump one his BS is trying to stop it before it gets out of hand.
> 
> The tighty righties get offended when people call the BP concentration camps “concentration camps”, complaining about the “unfair” comparison to Nazi Germany. They whine that it’s inflammatory to make such comparisons, as mass executions are not being done. But in 1936, Germany’s concentration camps hadn’t become death camps yet, either. They worked up to it.
> 
> We’re NOT going to let trump “work up to it”.

Ok so the solution is to advocate political violence directed at kids? Sounds like you are the fascists.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/78 "2019-07-28T00:04:08Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> And my first reaction was, “What lawsuit did Mitch McConnell file?”
> 
> I mean, if you hear Smirky McDouchebag, why wouldn’t you think of Moscow Mitch?

I wasn’t aware that Yertle McConnell was capable of smirking? I did have to click on the thread to find out which Smirky McDouchebag was being discussed, but then I remembered the incident, and was pleased to see that others had remembered that Smirky and pals weren’t just clueless teens on a field trip.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/79 "2019-07-28T00:19:38Z")

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> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#):
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> Even the briefest, laziest, most cursory perusal of my posting history would reveal that I’m a liberal who despises Trump.

Maybe historically you haven’t acted like a smarmy douchebag. But I’m living in the _now_.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smirky-mcdouchebag-lawsuit-dismissed/837686/80 "2019-07-28T00:21:34Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Probably not. Though I am pretty tan. Now, outside of illegal immigrants who’s being come after? And yes it’s shameful how those detained are being treated. But the US has never been known for civilized treatment of detained or imprisoned and I find that deeply troubling.

I’m glad you find that deeply troubling. So what the fuck are you doing about it?

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