# Smokers stink. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 26, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378 "2010-04-26T05:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/81 "2010-04-27T14:15:38Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > And you’re ugly and socially inept, and you and your fat brethren cause other countries to make fun of us. Are you Canadian? > [@](#): > > Also, I don’t smoke. Didn’t say you did. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/82 "2010-04-27T16:09:52Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > So… how’s about you quit whining like a little bitch? I’m sure no one wants to look at your ugly face or listen to your advice on how to beat the cancer or smell your disgusting cologne or watch your fat rolls jiggle as you hobble to the elevator to go up one floor, or deal with whatever other annoying habit you no doubt have. > > Quit being a hypersensitive git and move on, or grow a set and tell the person who smokes instead of getting on the internet and posting about it, looking for validation. > > Dipshit. Wow. Someone really needs to remove the yardstick from his twat. And for the record: smokers do, literally, stink. And before Ms. Putrescent Hoo-ha here gets his tits in a twist all over again, I’ve said as much to the smoker(s). ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/83 "2010-04-27T16:12:09Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > If all you can do is cry about me being a big old meaning, then save us all some time and just shut the fuck up. I wouldn’t exactly characterize you as a “big old meaning”. No, more like a big ol’ meaning_less_. I thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/84 "2010-04-27T16:22:20Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > When I’m driving behind a smoker who’s flicking ash out his car window, I’ve never missed seeing the consumed butt flying out the window sometime afterwards (assuming I’m behind the person long enough for them to have finished their cigarette).\ And if you’re really lucky and driving with _your_ windows down, you might get their still lit butt in YOUR car! ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/85 "2010-04-27T16:28:45Z")
> [@otternell](#): > > But you know what fuck-knobs, if they aren’t on your clock, you should not have the right to dictate their behavior for a completely legal activity, that is not occurring on your property. Nonsense. Companies and corporations can, and rightly do, impinge upon one’s civil liberties even during off hours. Just one example, taken from my years working with school-aged children: the center I worked at six years ago found out that one of its female employees had, completely legally, posed for some nude pictures that were then posted to a (again, legal) site that displayed such photography. She was of age. Everything she did was perfectly legal, and she did it on her _own time_, and never spoke of it to any co-workers, parents, or, obviously, any of the children in her care. But when it was found out by a parent and brought to the attention of the center director, the director fired her immediately because she (reasonably) feared that keeping her on would have deleterious effects on the child care center’s image. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/86 "2010-04-27T16:37:59Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > And I don’t buy these so called ‘health problems’ that folks claim they have just because they happen to walk past someone that smoked a cigarette outside. I call bullshit on those ‘health problems’. And fuck you, too. My wife has severe asthma and environmental allergies, and immediately feels a tightening of the lungs and a shortness of breath at the first whiff of cigarette smoke, and typically gets a throbbing headache within two or three minutes of exposure. This happens even when we’re driving in a car with our windows up and the heater/defogger/AC on, and we pull up next to a car with someone smoking with the windows down (because, of course, even smokers can’t stand the smell of the smoke they produce). Now, does she (or do we) make a big thing about this? Not at all. She deals with it as best can. But for dickless pieces of shit like you to say that all such claims are bogus is out and out horseshit. So: Fuck. Off. Pretty please? ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/87 "2010-04-27T16:40:47Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > This reminds me of a story. I am anal about cleaning the cat litter box. I try to be diligent. One day I got in my best friend’s car. > > BF: Remember that time you took away my perfumed oil, threw it out and told me I reek and said that you would expect me to do the same for you?" > > Me: Yeah… > > BF: You stink like fucking cat piss. > > Me: I’m not throwing out my cat. Hmm. I got the “dickless” part right. I’m good! ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/88 "2010-04-27T16:49:03Z")
Wifey is fine with the pollutions coming out of the car you pull up next to? It’s just the cigarette smoke that causes the problem? Ok. ETA: And I don’t doubt that someone smoking a cigarette triggers an allergic reaction. I do doubt that someone that walks by a person with cigarette odor on their clothes can trigger health problems. And if it does, then that is an unusual problem that the person with the problem needs to take precautions with; everyone else shouldn’t be expected to cater to that. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/89 "2010-04-27T17:00:25Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > ETA: And I don’t doubt that someone smoking a cigarette triggers an allergic reaction. I do doubt that someone that walks by a person with cigarette odor on their clothes can trigger health problems. And if it does, then that is an unusual problem that the person with the problem needs to take precautions with; **everyone else shouldn’t be expected to cater to that**. Where, exactly, did I say that my wife expects others (meaning smokers) to cater to her needs, you numb cunt? ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/90 "2010-04-27T17:03:07Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Wifey is fine with the pollutions coming out of the car you pull up next to? It’s just the cigarette smoke that causes the problem? Ok. And yes, she _is_ fine with the other automobile emissions. Or as fine as any of us are. It’s cigarette smoke _specifically_ that causes this reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/91 "2010-04-27T17:05:05Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Where, exactly, did I say that my wife expects others (meaning smokers) to cater to her needs, you numb cunt? No need to take this personal. I don’t have anything against your wife. I personally doubt that cigarette smoke on clothing causes health problems for someone that comes into casual contact with it at work or whatever. It is totally ok for you and your wife to disagree. Perhaps I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/92 "2010-04-27T17:08:40Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > We had a fire here last month that has has left hundreds of people homeless that was caused by one of the residents disposing of a cigarette butt in a planter. Your friend really could have set your house on fire. The biggest piss off of the whole thing is that the douche-bag who caused the fire with his smoke isn’t going to be charged because it was an ‘accident’. > [@](#): > > Originally posted by Nzinga, Seated Wifey is fine with the pollutions coming out of the car you pull up next to? It’s just the cigarette smoke that causes the problem? Ok. [/quote] Actually (and I did just see your edit) for some reason cigarette smoke really gets my asthma acting up as well, to the point that I need to use an emergency inhaler (I’m talking actual smoke here, not just stinky residue on someone’s clothing). I don’t know why this gets me so much where car exhaust usually doesn’t (although some vehicles - I assume in desperate need of a tune up - will literally take my breath away). Some perfumes do the same thing. I don’t know why - size of the particle maybe? But when I start hacking around a smoker I’m really not trying to be a twat - I’m just hacking. And finally, yes, smokers do stink. My mom is a smoker and I tell her that she stinks - well, usually I say 'Jesus Mom, your breath is enough to knock a pig off a shit truck from 50 paces - have a piece of gum already!" but we have a different sort of relationship… ---
**Author:** ![Fiona\_Greenlee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e68b1a/32.png) [@Fiona\_Greenlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiona_Greenlee)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/93 "2010-04-27T17:10:02Z")
Speaking as a former smoker, _ **nothing** _ smells worse than a partially smoked cigarette that’s stashed in your pocket/back in the pack/tossed in the trash inside. Please dispose of your butts outside, in a proper container and extinguish them first. Or try something like [this](http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Portable-Ashtray-Snuffer-Assorted/dp/B002EQIRPI/ref=pd_sim_dbs_sg_2). ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/94 "2010-04-27T17:10:32Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > And yes, she _is_ fine with the other automobile emissions. Or as fine as any of us are. It’s cigarette smoke _specifically_ that causes this reaction. I suppose that’s possible. I don’t care though, any more than the people who wear enough perfume to gag a maggot care that they’re giving me a sore throat and a headache. And fuck you for thinking I SHOULD care. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/95 "2010-04-27T17:13:08Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > No need to take this personal. I don’t have anything against your wife. I personally doubt that cigarette smoke on clothing causes health problems for someone that comes into casual contact with it at work or whatever. It is totally ok for you and your wife to disagree. Perhaps I’m wrong. Fair enough. But the reason it got personal in the first place was because of this: > [@](#): > > And I don’t buy these so called ‘health problems’ that folks claim they have just because they happen to walk past someone that smoked a cigarette outside. **I call bullshit** on those ‘health problems’. (My emphasis.) Were you, or were you not implying (or stating outright) that everyone who claims to be affected by coming into contact with cigarette smoke is, in fact, lying? And if you were, in fact, implying that, then maybe you ought to realize that such blanket statements are, in and of themselves, complete bullshit, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/96 "2010-04-27T17:19:30Z")
I stand by finding those claims bullshit. If you can handle driving in traffic in the city, you can handle walking by someone that smoked a cigarette outside and then came inside. That means I don’t buy it. That’s a broad generalization that I am recklessly making on a messageboard. It is not me specifically and personally looking deep into your wife’s baby blues and calling her a filthy liar. I may be completely wrong about what I think is bullshit. So what. And on edit, I meant to say, I don’t want _you_ to go taking it all personally. I certainly don’t take it personally to be called a cunt. On the SDMB? Being called the famous ‘cunt’ may be the coolest thing ever. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/97 "2010-04-27T17:20:54Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > I suppose that’s possible. I don’t care though, any more than the people who wear enough perfume to gag a maggot care that they’re giving me a sore throat and a headache. > > And fuck you for thinking I SHOULD care. Hey, fuckwit, did I say that they _should_ care? No, I only jumped **Nzinga** ’s shit when she implied that people who complain of casual contact with smoke having deleterious effects on their health are all liars (okay, to be fair, she said “bullshit”). I maintain that it’s my wife that has the affliction, so therefore, it’s up to her to prepare sufficiently in advance for anything she may encounter. But don’t fucking imply that people like my wife are lying when they maintain that, yes, smoking does, in fact, affect them more so than it may others. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/98 "2010-04-27T17:28:03Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > But when it was found out by a parent Yeah, I bet they were cruising softcore porn sites just in case they came across their kids’ childcare provider. You know, _looking out for the children_. Whoever got that teacher fired should be beaten. ---
**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/99 "2010-04-27T17:28:12Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Nonsense. Companies and corporations can, and rightly do, impinge upon one’s civil liberties even during off hours. Just one example, taken from my years working with school-aged children: the center I worked at six years ago found out that one of its female employees had, completely legally, posed for some nude pictures that were then posted to a (again, legal) site that displayed such photography. She was of age. Everything she did was perfectly legal, and she did it on her _own time_, and never spoke of it to any co-workers, parents, or, obviously, any of the children in her care. But when it was found out by a parent and brought to the attention of the center director, the director fired her immediately because she (reasonably) feared that keeping her on would have deleterious effects on the child care center’s image. You sure came into this thread all hot and bothered didn’t you? I am aware that they can and do. I disagree with the “rightly”. The case you mentioned above is a perfect example of something the company can do, for which I will call them fuck-knobs. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378/100 "2010-04-27T17:33:54Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Yeah, I bet they were cruising softcore porn sites just in case they came across their kids’ childcare provider. You know, _looking out for the children_. Whoever got that teacher fired should be beaten. We’re in total agreement on that. But that doesn’t change the fact that the daycare was within its rights to do what it did. Though, admittedly, it did stink in more ways than one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smokers-stink/537378.md?page=6)