# Smoking. Arrgh!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 4, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858 "2005-03-04T03:53:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/1 "2005-03-04T03:53:28Z")

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the smell is horrible. it is expensive. it leaves butts and ashes to get everywhere. why do people do it? effin nicotine. if i am in proximity to a smoker for more than half a minute, it gets on my clothes. it turns walls of houses yellow. bad breath, need for lighter/matches. its a waste. OG how i loathe seeing ashtrays full of white stubs and grey powder. the udder burden to society it is. everyime i am driving and see someone with a cigarrete, it drives me nuts, knowing that the car interior now smells like ass, and there are quite possibly burn marks in the upholstry.

this might sound like “blah blah blah ‘i’m a little bitch’ blah blah blah”. but i just hate everything about lighting something that has an offensive odor, and then putting it in your face! dont make me tell you traumatic childhood stories…

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/2 "2005-03-04T03:57:20Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> the smell is horrible. it is expensive. it leaves butts and ashes to get everywhere. why do people do it? effin nicotine. if i am in proximity to a smoker for more than half a minute, it gets on my clothes. it turns walls of houses yellow. bad breath, need for lighter/matches. its a waste. OG how i loathe seeing ashtrays full of white stubs and grey powder. the udder burden to society it is. everyime i am driving and see someone with a cigarrete, it drives me nuts, knowing that the car interior now smells like ass, and there are quite possibly burn marks in the upholstry.
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> this might sound like “blah blah blah ‘i’m a little bitch’ blah blah blah”. but i just hate everything about lighting something that has an offensive odor, and then putting it in your face! dont make me tell you traumatic childhood stories…

If it bothers you that much, seek help. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/3 "2005-03-04T04:07:50Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> the udder burden to society it is.

😕  
What do cows have to do with it?

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/4 "2005-03-04T04:09:07Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> everyime i am driving and see someone with a cigarrete, it drives me nuts, knowing that the car interior now smells like ass, and there are quite possibly burn marks in the upholstry.

You’re bothered by the (possible) condition of the upholstry on random cars that you pass by on the street? Talk about hyperfuckingsensitive.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/5 "2005-03-04T04:12:41Z")

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I respect your opinion but I am afraid that you are one of the only people that feels this way. Smokers enjoy an exhalted status in our culture because it is just plain cool and for greatfulness from others for paying for all those taxes that let others enjoy special programs. You list some drawbacks to smoking but I will have to remind you that the research still isn’t conclusive on smoking causing an interior “ass” smell. Likewise, those yellow walls may have just been painted that way. You don’t have to worship smokers like the masses do but realize that being a one-person false alarm will bring you nothing but ridicule and heartache is this life.

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**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/6 "2005-03-04T04:22:34Z")

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not hypersensitive, just a reminder of how much i uTTerly dislike smoking.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/7 "2005-03-04T04:25:00Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> not hypersensitive, just a reminder of how much i uTTerly dislike smoking.

Why would the color of other people’s walls or the smell of other people’s car interiors bother you so very much, if you’re not hypersensitive?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/8 "2005-03-04T05:36:40Z")

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If I want your non-capitalising ass in my car, I’ll fucking invite you, eh?

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> JFK smoked. Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t. John Lennon smoked. Mark David Chapman didn’t. The Rolling Stones smoked. The Bee Gees didn’t. Winston Churchill smoked. Hitler didn’t. And Hitler was a vegetarian. I rest my case.
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> -Denis Leary

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/9 "2005-03-04T05:46:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> if i am in proximity to a smoker for more than half a minute, it gets on my clothes.

That it does – the smell just absorbs into anything, especially porous matierals, in proximity. A new renter just moved into the unit next to me (I live in a townhouse, and they are duplex style, so my neighbor’s door is just next to mine) – and she always hangs out in front of her door smoking. I often hold my breath to enter my house now.

If people want to stink up their **own** cars, fine. More power to them. But I’m especially irritated when I try to get a “Non-smoking room” at a hotel, and enter it to the distinct smell of old absorbed smoke and the lame attempt to cover it up with loads of sickly smelling “air freshener”.

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**Author:** ![LissyLou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5daacb/32.png) [@LissyLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LissyLou)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/10 "2005-03-04T06:42:38Z")

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I’m a non-smoker, but I’m actually pretty tolerant. Most of my friends smoke around me, and I don’t give them any grief. One thing I do have a beef with, is **when they**  **light up in the car and then crack their window**. Oh, OK, you want to smoke, but you don’t want the smoke in your face. I see. Where do you think it’s going now, hmm? Do you truly think it’s getting sucked out the window, despite contradictory evidence of in-rushing air? How can you not notice that you’ve created a situation where the smoke from **your** cigarette is now being narrowly channelled into **my** face?

And I’m ranting here because every smoker I know is so defensive that no matter how nicely I explained the problem they would still be offended! The best solution I’ve come up with so far is mirroring. They crack their window, I crack my window the same amount. They put their’s up, mine goes up. It’s cold work, but I think I saw a light go on in my one friend’s head the other day!

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/11 "2005-03-04T08:17:09Z")

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> this might sound like “blah blah blah ‘i’m a little bitch’ blah blah blah”. but …

Not buts about it, you sound like a little whiny bitch. Worry more about yourself and less about what other people are doing. Don’t like smoking? Don’t smoke! Don’t like the smell of smokers? Avoid them! Loathe seeing ashtrays full of white stubs and grey powder? Fucking empty it!

Whatever you do, blow it out your confusingly morally superior ass and stop whining so much.

Sam

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/12 "2005-03-04T08:43:03Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> not hypersensitive, just a reminder of how much i uTTerly dislike smoking.

Actually I think the udders were the best part of the whine. Can we have the udders back please?

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/13 "2005-03-04T09:02:02Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> dont make me tell you traumatic childhood stories…

Well gee, now I’m curious.

Is it like the time when you were little and innocently playing ball too close to the road, and you ran out in front of a car, and it stopped in plenty of time, but then you looked and saw that the driver courteously waved you on but he had a cigarette and you just _knew_ that his upholstery smelled like smoke and probably had… _ohgodohgodohgod_… ash on it?

Or is it more like at that family gathering, when your skeevy uncle lured you alone into the basement, locked the door, and then he showed you his ashtray?

Or were you on lover’s lane, and a report came on the radio about how it was 2 AM and the local bar had shut down and all the smokers were out wandering the streets, and your girlfriend got all creeped out and made you drive away as fast as you could? And when you got home… there… on the door handle… was a _lighter!_

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/14 "2005-03-04T13:16:52Z")

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> [@LissyLou](#):
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> I Do you truly think it’s getting sucked out the window, despite contradictory evidence of in-rushing air?

Always went out the window for me.  
It’s been 4 1/2 years and reading this, I want one…

🙂

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**Author:** ![Ithaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Ithaka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ithaka)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/15 "2005-03-04T13:27:58Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Always went out the window for me.  
> It’s been 4 1/2 years and reading this, I want one…
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> 🙂

Yes, me too. We need some physics on this one but it always seems to me that the air rushing past a cracked window sucked the smoke out (lower pressure?).

Appreciated the whining rant, though - extra marks gained for the use of lowercase.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/16 "2005-03-04T15:07:02Z")

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It’s not just for pirates any more.

Okay, let’s make some lists:

Things that are offensive to you:

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> the smell is horrible.  
> if i am in proximity to a smoker for more than half a minute, it gets on my clothes.  
> bad breath,  
> OG how i loathe seeing ashtrays full of white stubs and grey powder.

Things that are none of your dang business:

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> it is expensive.  
> effin nicotine.  
> it turns walls of houses yellow.  
> need for lighter/matches.  
> its a waste.  
> the car interior now smells like ass, and there are quite possibly burn marks in the upholstry.  
> i just hate everything about lighting something that has an offensive odor, and then putting it in your face!  
> why do people do it?

Things that you might have a legitimate gripe with, but didn’t bother to elaborate:

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> the udder burden to society it is.  
> it leaves butts and ashes to get everywhere.

(but only if people litter, and gumchewers do this, too, as well as people who go to fast food restaurants, so…)

Things that we agree with you 100%:

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> i’m a little bitch  
> dont make me tell you traumatic childhood stories…

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/17 "2005-03-04T16:11:48Z")

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If people want to smoke, then that’s up to them. But when the smell clings to my clothes, I get a little pissed off too.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/18 "2005-03-04T16:20:52Z")

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I hang around smokers to get some second hand, and get pissed off by people who wear too much cologne. 🙂

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**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/19 "2005-03-04T18:27:25Z")

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mainly the reason for this rant is because my parents smoke. move out, you say? i’m 17, no job, small town. smoke always seems to waft toward me, and when i leave the room, my parents get mad at me for not coming in and speaking to them.

traumatic childhood story: one night, my mother had come to tuck me into bed(i was about 7) and i had a can of dr. pepper on the floor next to the foot of my bed. so my mom leaves, and i am thinkin, “hey, dont i still have some dr. pepper in that can? i do!” so i drink it, and to my horror, she had extinguished her cigarrette in there. didnt tell me. i would rather have drank ignited kerosene. this stuff HURT my throat. and to top it off, the second i came down, my parents were in their room asleep, door locked( well, we had 2 doors to their room, one always stayed locked, because…well i dont know why, and that was the door i was closest to.) i start banging on the door, hoarsely yelling what happened, and all i hear is my mom sayin “youll be fine, go back to bed”.

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**Author:** ![Ink\_a\_dink\_a\_dink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ink\_a\_dink\_a\_dink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ink_a_dink_a_dink)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/20 "2005-03-04T20:59:53Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> traumatic childhood story: one night, my mother had come to tuck me into bed(i was about 7) and i had a can of dr. pepper on the floor next to the foot of my bed. so my mom leaves, and i am thinkin, “hey, dont i still have some dr. pepper in that can? i do!” so i drink it, and to my horror, she had extinguished her cigarrette in there. didnt tell me. i would rather have drank ignited kerosene. this stuff HURT my throat. and to top it off, the second i came down, my parents were in their room asleep, door locked( well, we had 2 doors to their room, one always stayed locked, because…well i dont know why, and that was the door i was closest to.) i start banging on the door, hoarsely yelling what happened, and all i hear is my mom sayin “youll be fine, go back to bed”.

Shit, kid, everyone who smokes or HAS smoked has probably done that at least once in their life. It’s gross, but it doesn’t ruin your life!

**light goes on** or _does_ it?  
Inky

Who thinks you have some other issues rather than just “smoking”

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