# Smoking. Arrgh!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 4, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858 "2005-03-04T03:53:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/21 "2005-03-04T21:09:08Z")

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So… Nonsmokers put a tax on cigarettes (through pressure on their elected officials, whether those officials smoke or not is not important) which is bad enough, then you, a non-smoker, decide to bitch about, among other things such as how someone else’s car (that you’re not even in) smells, the price of cigarettes?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/22 "2005-03-04T21:30:04Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> not hypersensitive, just a reminder of how much i uTTerly dislike smoking.

Thanks for the reminder! I’d almost forgotten that vital information. This time, I’ll make sure to write it down somewhere, so that this crucial data is not lost to future generations.

> [@](#):
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> traumatic childhood story: one night, my mother had come to tuck me into bed(i was about 7) and i had a can of dr. pepper on the floor next to the foot of my bed. so my mom leaves, and i am thinkin, “hey, dont i still have some dr. pepper in that can? i do!” so i drink it, and to my horror, she had extinguished her cigarrette in there. didnt tell me. i would rather have drank ignited kerosene. this stuff HURT my throat.

Christ, what a pussy. You want nasty? I once took a sip out of a Coke can, forgetting that I had earlier used said can to dispose of a used Q-tip. I’d rather eat a pack of Marlboros before doing that again.

And don’t even get me started on the bongwater stories.

> [@](#):
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> and to top it off, the second i came down, my parents were in their room asleep, door locked( well, we had 2 doors to their room, one always stayed locked, because…well i dont know why, and that was the door i was closest to.)

Oh, that was because they were fucking. I mean, sure, they’re your parents, but they have needs, too. They didn’t want their torrid, sweaty, illegal-in-four-states sexual acrobatics interrupted. If the thought of your dad, naked, lying on top of your mom, who’s dressed in a PVC French maid uniform, creeps you out, try not to think too hard about what they got into when you were sleeping over at a friends.

There. Drinking a little cigarette-laced Dr. Pepper doesn’t seem so bad now, does it?

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**Author:** ![Nunavut\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@Nunavut\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunavut_Boy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/23 "2005-03-04T22:09:36Z")

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_lights smoke and exhales extravagantly all over this thread, turning it yellow and stinky_

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/24 "2005-03-04T22:41:41Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> …Oh, that was because they were fucking. I mean, sure, they’re your parents, but they have needs, too. They didn’t want their torrid, sweaty, illegal-in-four-states sexual acrobatics interrupted. If the thought of your dad, naked, lying on top of your mom, who’s dressed in a PVC French maid uniform, creeps you out, try not to think too hard about what they got into when you were sleeping over at a friends…

Great, now we will never hear the end of the Oedipal issues.

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**Author:** ![Jillyvn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Jillyvn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jillyvn)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/25 "2005-03-04T22:57:47Z")

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I’m torn.

I’m a smoker, who quit for three years, and recently started up again (stupid, I know), so I appreciate the complaints of non-smokers.

If there is such a thing, I consider myself a courteous smoker.

I don’t smoke around kids.

I don’t smoke in my house.

I throw my butts, after verifying they are fully exstinguished (usually by pouring a bit of my drink on them), in the garbage.

If I’m smoking outside, and there is someone around who is not smoking, I move as far away from them as possible.

I always wash my hands after I smoke and I do my best to minimize the smoker odour.

I smoke as little as possible.

But, the ardent smoker in me still gets pissed off when someone tells me I shouldn’t smoke.

Sigh. Fucking addictions.

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**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/26 "2005-03-05T00:00:07Z")

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i have nothing against smokers, or their habit, except for the ones who live with me and expose me to it often

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/27 "2005-03-05T00:43:17Z")

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Then Pit your folks. Don’t be a pussy and dance around it, vent.

But for the love of Ithaqua, please use capitals.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/28 "2005-03-05T01:20:21Z")

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> [@LissyLou](#):
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> And I’m ranting here because every smoker I know is so defensive !

You’d be defensive too if you had people constantly telling you how disgusting and dangerous your habit is. I’m a smoker, currently trying to quit cold turkey (Note to other current smokers: stop fucking offering me cigarettes by waving them in front of me!). I and most other smokers I know are well aware of how bad it is for us, how much it stinks, how much of a burden we are on society. Don’t make me drag out generalizations and examples of how SUVs and alcohol are just as bad/worse.

I hate being treated like a second class citizen. Oh, and BTW: Yes, secondhand smoke is dangerous, but just because you are able to smell a faint whiff of smoke in the air from 100 feet away is not equivalent to me slitting your throat and pouring arsenic down your throat. If you don’t like to smell it or see it, I suggest staying away from public areas that are equipped with ASHTRAYS!  
And the interior smell of other people’s cars are none of your damn business.  
Sorry. I’m on edge because I’M TRYING TO QUIT!

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/29 "2005-03-05T01:23:33Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> traumatic childhood story: one night, my mother had come to tuck me into bed(i was about 7) and i had a can of dr. pepper on the floor next to the foot of my bed. so my mom leaves, and i am thinkin, “hey, dont i still have some dr. pepper in that can? i do!” so i drink it, and to my horror, she had extinguished her cigarrette in there.

Strange, that’s a coming-of-age episode for many young drinkers and smokers. Makes me thing of the time I took a swig off of a full beer with a cig in it…hirrifying then, funny as hell now.

Or that one time I mistook someone’s spit-cup for my drink… (where’s the pukey smiley?)

Sam

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/30 "2005-03-05T01:36:28Z")

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I had a similair experience with half a bottle of 7-Up and returning from mowing the lawn. 🙂

However, the guy who put his smoke out my 7-Up was the guy who carried me into the emergency room in his arms when I was two and split my forehead open, so I got over it.

P.S. When they put the needle and thread to me, he fainted.

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**Author:** ![sj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@sj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sj2)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/31 "2005-03-05T01:57:49Z")

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> [@GaWd](#):
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> Not buts about it, you sound like a little whiny bitch. Worry more about yourself and less about what other people are doing. Don’t like smoking? Don’t smoke! Don’t like the smell of smokers? Avoid them! Loathe seeing ashtrays full of white stubs and grey powder? Fucking empty it!
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> Whatever you do, blow it out your confusingly morally superior ass and stop whining so much.
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> Sam

I too found myself nodding in agreement to one of the things in the OP.

And if people in their cars are bothering you that much, you are way overreacting.

Oh and you forgot yellow fingernails. They match the walls. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/32 "2005-03-05T03:45:31Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> But for the love of Ithaqua, please use capitals.

Sometimes the irony just runs up and hits you in the face with a beer bottle, “andros”.

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**Author:** ![sj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@sj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sj2)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/33 "2005-03-05T06:42:31Z")

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> [@feppytweed](#):
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> mainly the reason for this rant is because my parents smoke. move out, you say? i’m 17, no job, small town. smoke always seems to waft toward me, and when i leave the room, my parents get mad at me for not coming in and speaking to them.
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> traumatic childhood story: one night, my mother had come to tuck me into bed(i was about 7) and i had a can of dr. pepper on the floor next to the foot of my bed. so my mom leaves, and i am thinkin, “hey, dont i still have some dr. pepper in that can? i do!” so i drink it, and to my horror, she had extinguished her cigarrette in there. didnt tell me. i would rather have drank ignited kerosene. this stuff HURT my throat. and to top it off, the second i came down, my parents were in their room asleep, door locked( well, we had 2 doors to their room, one always stayed locked, because…well i dont know why, and that was the door i was closest to.) i start banging on the door, hoarsely yelling what happened, and all i hear is my mom sayin “youll be fine, go back to bed”.

Um. That is not trauma. Trust me. That is a bad experience. You know, some kids get ciggies put out ON them. Whiney, Yes. Get over it.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/34 "2005-03-05T07:11:57Z")

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I was smoking in the park the other day when a woman came over to me and said, “Do you know how bad that is for you?” So I said, “My grandmother lived to be 92.” The woman said, “Did she smoke?” And I said, “No. But she minded her own fucking business!”

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**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/35 "2005-03-05T07:24:27Z")

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“udder burden” …  
BAND NAME!

Unclviny

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/36 "2005-03-05T07:41:27Z")

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I am a recreational smoker. I smoke probably a packet a fucking month. I dunno, maybe I smoke less than that. but this thread, and in fact most anti-smoking material (including those TV announcements with graphic shots of cancerous lungs) for some reason make me want to go an light one up. I am going to do so right now.  
Generally, I’m a damned courteous smoker. No car, no kids, no confined spaces, etc etc. I’ll go out of my way to avoid bothering anybody. Anybody that is, except the OP, into whose face I would gladly blow the smoke of a big, fat, arrogant, carcinogenic ceeeeegar.

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**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/37 "2005-03-05T08:20:01Z")

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What I really dislike is people who walk around crowded places with a cigarette lit in their hand, with their hand down by their side. Just about hip height, so you might not see it until you’ve walked into them. Then of course, it is about child eye height. Now THAT would be traumatising.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/38 "2005-03-05T11:07:59Z")

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I have found that the best way to make the interior of a car smell like ass is to repeatedly fart into the upholstery. It works best with cloth seats.

Oh, and **feppytweed** : If the best you can do for a “traumatic experience” is taking a swig of Dr. Pepper in which a smoke was dropped…you’re a fucking crybaby. Get over it.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/39 "2005-03-05T11:27:34Z")

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> [@Bob Scene](#):
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> I was smoking in the park the other day when a woman came over to me and said, “Do you know how bad that is for you?” So I said, “My grandmother lived to be 92.” The woman said, “Did she smoke?” And I said, “No. But she minded her own fucking business!”

I’m going to have to resume smoking just so that I may one day use this line.

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**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/smoking-arrgh/292858/40 "2005-03-05T16:38:22Z")

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Advice - don’t drink Dr. Pepper when you’re trying to sleep. Way too much caffeine.

Most people my age had parents who smoked. It didn’t seem gross back then, mainly because nobody had told us it WAS gross. I’ve survived the trauma so far. I think you’ll be alright.

Remember - don’t do drugs. Inhaling pot smoke is pretty toxic, too. 🆒

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