# Snakespirit . . . dude, what the fuck?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 25, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767 "2004-07-25T05:14:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/61 "2004-07-27T22:37:13Z")

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Hey, all I think is that it’s damn convenient that he can pull out such a personal revelation that would send Dio packing and totally derail the thread. I myself was thinking “Dio, lay off the penis imagery, what if there’s females or castrated men in your target group.” And there you go.

If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. I’ll never know for sure. All I can do is file this datum and compare it to his fuure actions. If he’s an overall good poster, then it’s probably true. If he turns out to be a lying trollish jerk, then I can safetly conclude otherwise.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/62 "2004-07-27T23:29:13Z")

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So does this mean I might be conveniently lying about being female? 😉

_note that I am joking_

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**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/63 "2004-07-28T22:27:15Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> If this is true and you’re not just fucking with us or making it up then, dude, I am really sorry for making a bunch of “penis” cracks and equating it with manhood. I meant it figuratively, not literally, but it never would would have crossed my mind in a million years that somebody might actually…Jesus, dude, I’m sorry. That puts some of your reactions in a different light for me.

I don’t hold that against you **Dio**. How could you know? I just objected in general. Actually, I never should have mentioned it; it has no bearing on anything.

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**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/64 "2004-07-28T22:32:49Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> But the simple fact is, I don’t believe you.

Good. So can we drop it? I was stupid to open my mouth.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/65 "2004-07-29T00:35:45Z")

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No you weren’t. You gained respect and compassion from those of us who would rather err on the side of giving you the benefit of the doubt and being sensitive to what you sacrificed on our behalf, and you learned the caliber of person you were dealing with regarding those who chose to call you a liar and call bullshit on your posts. Kudos to you.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/66 "2004-07-29T02:06:33Z")

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> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> No you weren’t. You gained respect and compassion from those of us who would rather err…

He also left those of us who would prefer **not** to err wondering why he brought it up in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/67 "2004-07-29T03:11:44Z")

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Someone called him dickless. He said he lost his in a war and that the insult didn’t bother him. See post #27.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/68 "2004-07-29T13:36:22Z")

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I’m surprised no one has brought up the difference between “dickless” and “castrated.” I believe it was Jake in \*\*The Sun Also Rises \*\* who was dickless; at at least it was made clear that he was injured in such a way as to still have the desire but not the ability to have sex. My understanding is that castration pretty much eliminates desire.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/69 "2004-07-29T13:44:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> My understanding is that castration pretty much eliminates desire.

Maybe a doctor could clarify this for us, or perhaps a psychologist?

I was under the impression that while castration removes the ability to perform in the traditional way, it cannot eliminate mental desire.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/70 "2004-07-29T13:55:40Z")

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My impression has always been that castration involves excision of the testes, leaving the penis intact. That’s the way it’s done in gelding horses, anyway. I can personally testify (ha!) to the equine process, having held the light for my vet when he gelded a colt at my barn.\*

Gelding does in fact eliminate most of the desire, although some geldings do continue to show occasional mating behavior. My gelding Nick, for example, is very much a mare’s man, and actually tried to mount a mare in heat once. The fact that he’s a big Quarter Horse and she was a Shetland pony left their love unrequited, as we rushed into the paddock and separated them when they’d scrambled back to their feet.

But yeh, if you can extrapolate from equine to human, castration and loss of the penis are two different things, and a man who lost his penis yet retained his testes I would expect to retain the normal level of desire.

\*I can supply details on the process, if anyone’s interested. 😉

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/71 "2004-07-29T13:59:46Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Maybe a doctor could clarify this for us, or perhaps a psychologist?
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> I was under the impression that while castration removes the ability to perform in the traditional way, it cannot eliminate mental desire.

I guess what I meant by desire was the actual physiological manifestation; ie., quickening of pulse and respiration, blood flow toward genitals, rather than “wanting to.” I am equating it with a man who may want to perform, but for wharever reason is unable to.

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**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/72 "2004-10-14T10:32:54Z")

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What the fuck? Over.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/73 "2004-10-14T13:50:03Z")

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Snakespirit . . . dude, why the fuck did you revive this thread?  
It’s over two months old, and wasn’t all that entertaining the first time around.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/74 "2004-10-14T14:13:38Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Snakespirit . . . dude, why the fuck did you revive this thread?  
> It’s over two months old, and wasn’t all that entertaining the first time around.

It’s right there in post #7:

> [@SnakeSpirit](#):
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> I just fuck up regularly

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/75 "2004-10-14T14:30:15Z")

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I see.  
-Thanks **Desmo**.

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/76 "2004-10-14T14:32:59Z")

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> [@SnakeSpirit](#):
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> So can we drop it? I was stupid to open my mouth.

And not smart enough to let it drop once it had done so on its own. And not smart enough to keep his mouth shut, either. Wow.

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**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snakespirit-dude-what-the-fuck/256767/77 "2004-10-14T14:34:51Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Snakespirit . . . dude, why the fuck did you revive this thread?.

Nice explanation of the username though. Dearly departed but still with us… in spirit.

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