# sneaky self portraits in great art

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneaky-self-portraits-in-great-art/781160>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 2, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneaky-self-portraits-in-great-art/781160 "2017-03-02T01:48:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneaky-self-portraits-in-great-art/781160/21 "2017-03-03T02:43:24Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Wow, I did not know that. Does nobody read the OP ?

Sorry – missed it in your OP.

Looking at the minuscule image though, almost lacking in detail, I find it hard to believe anyone thought it could represent any nongeneric person.

Interesting the way several of these – Van Eyck, Bosch, Leonardo, Morse – put themselves in the horizontal if not the overall center of the painting.

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**Author:** ![Reepicheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Reepicheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reepicheep)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneaky-self-portraits-in-great-art/781160/22 "2017-03-03T22:52:10Z")

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Here is a link on [Hidden Self Portraits](https://apah.wikispaces.com/Hidden+Self+Portraits), I found when looking for the link to Dali’s self portrait in the _The Persistence of Memory_ that I vaguely remembered hearing about in an art class.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneaky-self-portraits-in-great-art/781160/23 "2017-03-04T00:42:23Z")

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Nice link, **Reepicheep**.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneaky-self-portraits-in-great-art/781160/24 "2017-03-04T01:06:16Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Wow, I did not know that. Does nobody read the OP ?

It’s also thought that Van Eyck used something like a camera obscura to develop his use of perspective.

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