# Sneer on Mr. Bricker. Sneer on. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 6, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451 "2006-10-06T00:39:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/41 "2006-10-06T02:03:05Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] More like muchos ignorant and embarassed. I was wrong on this. I acknowledge it, and I thank you for the correction [/QUOTE] Is there still any point to this thread? If not, you’d be wise to ask a mod to close it. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/42 "2006-10-06T02:05:51Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Oh, peachy-keen! Now kindly go read the other links that have been provided, digest the facts, then come back and retract all the other fucked-up bullshit you spewed, m’kay? [/QUOTE] Hmmm. Yes. It appears I have at least one other major point to concede which is that this October surprise does not appear to have originated with the Democrats. I’ll thank you not to overdo the tabasco sauce as I have several servings of crow to work through, and wouldn’t want to upset my stomach. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/43 "2006-10-06T02:07:24Z")
[QUOTE=Caridwen] pssst- You and Coulter both forgot to mention Crane- > **[Gerry Studds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds#Congressional_page_sex_scandal)** > > Gerry Eastman Studds (/ˈɡɛri/ GHERR-ee; May 12, 1937 – October 14, 2006) was an American politician from Massachusetts who served as a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from 1973 until 1997. He was the first member of Congress to be openly gay. In 1983, Studds was censured by the House for having sex with a 17-year-old page. Gerry Studds was born in Mineola, New York, to Elbridge Gerry Eastman Studds (an architect who helped design the FDR Drive in New York City) a... [/QUOTE] I found that quite interesting, not to mention disengenous also. I also liked this quote, from the Crane case: > [@](#): > > “He is embarrassed, he is humiliated, he is disgraced. And it endures; it is not over … Every shred of dignity will be stripped away from Dan Crane, and it will endure.” “I suggest to the members that compassion and justice are not antithetical; they are complementary. The Judeo-Christian tradition says hate the sin and love the sinner. We are on record as hating the sin, some more ostentatiously than others. I think it is time to love the sinner.” From Henry Hyde in asking for Congress not to expel Crane. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/44 "2006-10-06T02:10:52Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Is there still any point to this thread? If not, you’d be wise to ask a mod to close it. [/QUOTE] Cut and run is attractive. There’s still the Studs thing and the List, but I think the impact has been dulled. Perhaps a mercy killing is in order. **RUN AWWWWAAAAAAYYY!!** ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/45 "2006-10-06T02:11:14Z")
> [@](#): > > “His e-mails developed into sexually explicit conversations, and he asked me for photographs of my erect penis,” the former page said. By tomorrow the pubbie spin machine will be saying that he really said “send me a picture of your \*elected Pennsylvania \* congressman”. Here is what I think is truly outrageous: 1. They kept Foley on the committee that oversaw sexual predator laws even after knowing he was doing something innappropriate. 2. They did not share warnings with Democrats on the Page committee. 3. They did not warn pages about Foley if they worked for Democrats - like it’s OK to abuse kids if they are Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/46 "2006-10-06T02:15:44Z")
Not sure about #3 there, **Dan**. So far as I recall, no pages _at all_ were actually warned, except by other pages in their community of hotties. So there wasn’t any issue of selective negligence. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/47 "2006-10-06T02:15:51Z")
For the record I pronounce my ass thoroughly-kicked, my ignorance taken to school, and that it was done with humor and without venom. Now I would appreciate it if we never mention this again. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/48 "2006-10-06T02:19:01Z")
Now I’m going to defend **Scylla** , kinda sorta. If the facts had been as he described them in the OP (a single relationship which only became sexual after the kid was of age), then the Studs case would have been more analogous and the charge of hypocrisy would have had more merit. But now he’s admitted the facts were not what he thought they were and that his OP was based on false assumptions. I say cut him loose. He made a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/49 "2006-10-06T02:21:19Z")
Let him repair to the river, and there perform that Ancient Tasmanian Ritual of Self-Abasement, accompanied by a Chorus of Bitter Virgins, intoning dirges of Woe and Humiliation. So let it be written. So let it be done. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/50 "2006-10-06T02:23:00Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] For the record I pronounce my ass thoroughly-kicked, my ignorance taken to school, and that it was done with humor and without venom. Now I would appreciate it if we never mention this again. [/QUOTE] D’you want me to close this? ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/51 "2006-10-06T02:24:05Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] For the record I pronounce my ass thoroughly-kicked, my ignorance taken to school, and that it was done with humor and without venom. Now I would appreciate it if we never mention this again. [/QUOTE] Somebody is going to make this their sig. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/52 "2006-10-06T02:28:44Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Now I’m going to defend **Scylla** , kinda sorta. If the facts had been as he described them in the OP (a single relationship which only became sexual after the kid was of age), then the Studs case would have been more analogous and the charge of hypocrisy would have had more merit. But now he’s admitted the facts were not what he thought they were and that his OP was based on false assumptions. I say cut him loose. He made a mistake. [/QUOTE] I appreciate that he’s admitted he was wrong, but he needs to take some abuse for making a thread based on a freaking Anne Coulter column… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/53 "2006-10-06T02:29:22Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] Cut and run is attractive. There’s still the Studs thing [/QUOTE] Nitpick: It’s two D’s – Studds. And no matter how often you hear his first name pronounced “Jerry”, it’s wrong. Hard “G” sound, like “Gary”. This despite the fact he’s named for the remote ancestor whose poloticized districting gave us the term “gerrymander.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/54 "2006-10-06T02:36:35Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] …I was wrong on this… [/QUOTE] Thanks :rolleyes: I finally get my long ass post written and you gotta go and do this. ☹ CMC fnord! P.S. > [@Scylla](#): > > I’ll thank you not to overdo the tabasco sauce as I have several servings of crow to work through, and wouldn’t want to upset my stomach. We taste much better fried or roasted! P.P.S. There’s still what Studds thing? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/55 "2006-10-06T02:39:01Z")
[QUOTE=crowmanyclouds] P.P.S. There’s still what Studds thing? [/QUOTE] That he sodomized roaming herds of 17-year-old boys without so much as a “tut-tut” from the hypocritical Democrats, I gather. Hard to tell with all that foam flying from his OP. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/56 "2006-10-06T02:39:02Z")
**Scylla** , your ability to concede is one of the reasons that I remain one of your admirers even though we often disagree. As bewildered as I am by Hastert’s lack of action, I would hate to see him step down considering who would be likely to take his place. But I wish that he too had the grace to concede that he mishandled the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/57 "2006-10-06T02:53:04Z")
[QUOTE=Zoe] **Scylla** , your ability to concede is one of the reasons that I remain one of your admirers even though we often disagree. As bewildered as I am by Hastert’s lack of action, I would hate to see him step down considering who would be likely to take his place. But I wish that he too had the grace to concede that he mishandled the situation. [/QUOTE] Cynically? The Democrats, buncha yutzes that they are, still haven’t given us a reason to vote for them. The choice is between the Live Boy party and the Lame Slug party. I just hope the Live Boy party continues to implode for three weeks, because they’re worse than the Dems. That means that I hope Hastert holds on for another week, resigns next Friday, and House Republicans are split between “outsider” idealists who want to clean House and elect leadership without baggage, and folks who think they’re entitled to leadership because they’ve been there so long. I hope it paralyzes them into November, and that the sleazy useless Democrats win by default. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/58 "2006-10-06T03:19:21Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] By tomorrow the pubbie spin machine will be saying that he really said “send me a picture of your \*elected Pennsylvania \* congressman”. [/QUOTE] This is how I’m going to refer to my erect penis from now on. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/59 "2006-10-06T03:27:51Z")
There is a good lesson here: Never believe a word written by Ann Coulter. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451/60 "2006-10-06T03:31:16Z")
[Quote=DanBlather] By tomorrow the pubbie spin machine will be saying that he really said “send me a picture of your elected Pennsylvania congressman”. [/quote] > [@Miller](#): > > This is how I’m going to refer to my erect penis from now on. I’m sitting here right now playing with my elected Pennsylvania Congressman. It’s your turn to deal, Murtha!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sneer-on-mr-bricker-sneer-on/375451.md?page=4)