Thank you for, finally, actually doing what I asked and showing me what you think I’m wrong about.
EE never disavowed those numbers. He disavowed his misunderstanding/mischaracterization of your argument. Those numbers, which were the basis of my assertions, are correct.
Roughly, I suppose. My assertion is that any random black people has more legitimate reason to be afraid a white person might kill him than a white person does to be afraid a black person might kill him. Which is the general kind of fear in our society at large quite common, unfortunately, in white people – I’ve talked to many, many white folks who actually express fear that they will be harmed or threatened by a black stranger, some day. And my point is that this fear is based on mythology, and a stereotype that was born of data-free white supremacism, and in fact, black people through our history have had far more legitimate reason to be afraid of white people than the reverse. And these numbers show that this is still true, at least from the perspective of the kind of general fear of cross-racial murders that an individual person might have.
BLM is about society in general, with a focus on law enforcement. Statistics as well as reports of individual black people tell a pretty consistent story – that our society doesn’t place as high a value on black lives as white lives. Murders of black people are cleared less often, police shoot black people at a far higher rate than difference in crime rates would justify, white people are far more likely to get away with shooting a black person than the reverse, etc.
Yet another hypothetical that substitutes weird categories in for the real-world statistics in an attempt to invalidate them… But even in your hypothetical, if I’m reading it right, I’d have a lot more legitimate reason to fear Emmas than Dedricks; and if anyone is spreading a story, after centuries of anti-Dedrick brutality along with myths about Dedrick’s inferiority, that we should be more afraid of Dedricks than Emmas, then they’re spreading bullshit based on myth.
All of the numbers and circumstances and history that go into these statistics are indeed part of the explanation, but that doesn’t render the assertion invalid. A lone duck in a flock of geese might have pretty good reason to fear those geese – they outnumber him greatly – especially if they’ve mistreated him before. If you need a hypothetical to explain my point, here goes – imagine that big flock of geese, with only a few ducks. The geese mistreated the ducks for many years, in addition to spreading false rumors that the ducks were dangerous. The ducks always had a big fear of the geese, since they mistreated them for so long, and occasionally sometimes one or two of the ducks lashed out, even at higher rate of lashing-out than the geese have. But that doesn’t mean that the rumors the geese spread were legitimate – they were always baseless, and still are. If any geese have a generalized fear of ducks, that fear is based on a bullshit myth cooked up by long-dead ancestors, and kept alive by ignorant anti-duck bigots. Especially since the statistics show that a duck is a lot more likely to be killed by a goose than a goose is to be killed by a duck. In other words, the ducks’ fear of geese has a real basis to it… a history of mistreatment, being outnumbered, having bullshit rumors spread about them… while any fear the geese have for ducks is based on bullshit.