# snfaulkner, come in here...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 30, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649 "2019-01-30T01:06:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/21 "2019-01-30T04:38:04Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Done and done. Now what?

I have no dog in this fight, but: nicely done.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/22 "2019-01-30T05:04:47Z")

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I didn’t know this Elmore guy before and only had a vague notion who and what Huey Freeman was, so I gather there are lots of cliquish minifeuds going on made up of self-isolating and self-contained circles of jerks.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/23 "2019-01-30T06:40:12Z")

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snfaulkner? I thought that was Shodan or Miller, or maybe Guin?  
Fucked if I know.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/24 "2019-01-30T07:05:31Z")

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Such a mild, quiet & nice pitting. Why can’t they all be this way? It somehow makes happy.:):):)❤

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/25 "2019-01-31T16:23:03Z")

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**snfaulkner** , well handled overall. Know thyself. It’s the most challenging subject for most people.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/26 "2019-01-31T16:29:16Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> …and then go fuck yourself, you[motherfucking asshole](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21459575&postcount=3).
> 
> That is all.

This is more than ten words.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/27 "2019-01-31T16:30:53Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Such a mild, quiet & nice pitting. Why can’t they all be this way? It somehow makes happy.:):):)❤

> [@WAR](#):
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> Why can’t we be friends  
> Why can’t we be friends  
> Why can’t we be friends  
> Why can’t we be friends  
> Sometimes I don’t speak right  
> But yet I know what I’m talking about

🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/28 "2019-01-31T16:43:52Z")

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I have to say that based on the post cited as the instigation for this thread, the OP has set the bar for motherfucking-assholehood pretty low.

But then I would say that, as I’m probably a motherfucking asshole too by that reckoning.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/29 "2019-01-31T18:41:45Z")

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I sort of / kind of agreed with most of Banquet Bear’s post, but I’m sympathetic to the notion that it was far longer than necessary. A concise bit of pushback on that front isn’t a whole lot to get angry over. “Screed” isn’t even the most hurtful insult I’ve seen today … maybe even the past few hours.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/30 "2019-01-31T21:33:58Z")

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This makes **snfaulkner** _so_ poopyheaded.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/31 "2019-01-31T21:55:55Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> …and then go fuck yourself, you[motherfucking asshole](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21459575&postcount=3).
> 
> That is all.

Would you prefer “jeremiad?” Not because it’s necessarily a better word, but it’s been on my mind lately.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I didn’t know this Elmore guy before and only had a vague notion who and what Huey Freeman was, so I gather there are lots of cliquish minifeuds going on made up of self-isolating and self-contained circles of jerks.

The problem, as I see it, is too many feuds with all the same eager participants, making the Dope look like it has only a dozen members who all hate each other. Not a welcoming atmosphere.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/32 "2019-01-31T23:18:13Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> .The problem, as I see it, is too many feuds with all the same eager participants, making the Dope look like it has only a dozen members who all hate each other.

Could just be cabin fever.

Or sundowning.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/33 "2019-02-01T00:53:41Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> He called a heartfelt post by a currently clearly quite affected poster a “screed”. Could have just shut his trap and moved on. So yes, he’s a pustule of a human. A little pustule, in the scheme of things, but still a pustule.

About that “screed” thing, the term was bounced around a lot in the OP until the following was said:

> [@...so why hasn't Elmore been banned yet?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-why-hasnt-elmore-been-banned-yet/828645/1):
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> Elmore knows how to play the game. His rants are intelligible, and short enough that most people would not characterize it as a “screed.”

This implies that “is really long” is a defining attribute of screeds. M-W agrees; [its first definition of the term](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/screed) is “a lengthy discourse”. Only when you get to its third definition do you run into anything like a negative implication other than length: “a ranting piece of writing”.

So he used a term that was already very much in play in the thread to describe the OP that, based on the attribute of the word that the OP focused on, exactly describes the OP.

The bastard!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/34 "2019-02-01T01:01:12Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Could just be cabin fever.
> 
> Or sundowning.

Why can’t it be both, like me?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/35 "2019-02-01T10:12:26Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Would you prefer “jeremiad?” Not because it’s necessarily a better word, but it’s been on my mind lately.

I’m a big fan of the word “wharrgarbl” but **BB** ’s post wasn’t incoherent enough to qualify as such.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/36 "2019-02-01T12:07:11Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That Banquet Bear is one seriously tiring dude. Why would anyone want to read his 10,000 word essay on banning fairness. Jesus Christ.

I get that white people aren’t interested in how people of color try to function daily in a world in which they’re considered “underclass” but a little effort might help.

People want to know why I defended Huey and this is why: the beginning of the end for Huey began with comments in response to a feud with Shodan. Huey was responding to Shodan, who frequently engages in the same kind of sarcastic, smug dismissal of issues that pertain to race, prejudice, equality, etc (like the use of the n-word, for instance).

Taken out of context, sure, Huey’s comments about Shodan’s “imported” child were reprehensible and racially loaded - I don’t dispute that and never actually did. But part of that context, and part of understanding Huey’s perspective is understanding that a) Huey is an angry black man, who lives in a society that is perpetually hostile to black people, and b) Shodan, who may actually be a decent person in real life, has an online persona that is smug and dismissive towards the problems that people of color deal with.

And so is snfaulkner, and I dare say that this fits the bill for some other posters on this board. Some might not even be aware of their own biases or how offensive they are. Understanding prejudice requires awareness, and awareness requires…an effort to understand.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/37 "2019-02-01T13:18:06Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m a big fan of the word “wharrgarbl” but **BB** ’s post wasn’t incoherent enough to qualify as such.

His post may have been long, but it wasn’t remotely incoherent.

I will say it frustrates me that length is considered a negative even here. I remember when we mocked the “tl;dr” culture.

I mean, we’re expected to read entire long threads before we post here. There have been several threads longer than that first post, but you will get mocked if you repeat something someone else said.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/38 "2019-02-01T13:20:30Z")

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It’s not a matter of misunderstanding prejudice. **snfaulkner** just said tl;dr in a different way. Whites aren’t the only race that can be suffocatingly boring.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/39 "2019-02-01T13:23:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> His post may have been long, but it wasn’t remotely incoherent.

I know - I just like the word “wharrgarbl”. I’m not sure “jeremiad” applied in that case either. “Screed”, however…

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snfaulkner-come-in-here/828649/40 "2019-02-01T13:44:59Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Would you prefer “jeremiad?” Not because it’s necessarily a better word, but it’s been on my mind lately.

I’d _prefer_ that “tl;dr” responses in ATMB meet insta-banning, but then I’m not a mod, so here we are. My problem isn’t with the word “screed”, it’s with the nature of the response. If you do feel it’s long-winded, shut the fuck up and move on to the next post. Or PM the OP if you’re so short of brain that 8th-grade level reading hurts.

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