# Snipers in Kiev. SBU unveils the truth. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 6, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015 "2014-03-06T15:16:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Doller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@Doller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doller)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/1 "2014-03-06T15:16:02Z")
There are plenty of versions, the truth is always one: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZEgJ0oo3OA8/hqdefault.jpg "Breaking: Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and Catherine Ashton discuss Ukraine over the phone") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8) I hope those two in record are already preparing their public press conferences. Personally want to know the truth here and now! How many more ministers in EU knew about the real state of deals in Kiev? Why the truth on Ukraine is under a lock and not for public? Were there Europeans among bloody snipers shooting Ukrainians of both sides in Kiev? Since when finally do people in Europe receive mistake-free information about Ukraine not from newspapers, radio and television, but receive it by their own from the Internet?? Free and independent journalists, where are you all now?? You know, there will definitely be little surprise for me if people in Northern Korea now got more truth on Ukraine than we do in the very center of Europe… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/2 "2014-03-06T15:21:24Z")
Is there a question here? ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/3 "2014-03-06T15:21:58Z")
Reported for potential forum change, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/4 "2014-03-06T15:40:22Z")
> [@Doller](#): > > There are plenty of versions, the truth is always one: In my experience the truth is rarely one, although you can sometimes see the shape of it by putting all the other pieces together. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/5 "2014-03-06T15:42:41Z")
> [@Doller](#): > > There are plenty of versions, the truth is always one: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8) > > I hope those two in record are already preparing their public press conferences. Personally want to know the truth here and now! How many more ministers in EU knew about the real state of deals in Kiev? Why the truth on Ukraine is under a lock and not for public? Were there Europeans among bloody snipers shooting Ukrainians of both sides in Kiev? Since when finally do people in Europe receive mistake-free information about Ukraine not from newspapers, radio and television, but receive it by their own from the Internet?? Free and independent journalists, where are you all now?? You know, there will definitely be little surprise for me if people in Northern Korea now got more truth on Ukraine than we do in the very center of Europe… > **[Doctor disputes Estonian foreign minister's claims](https://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-03-05/doctor-disputes-estonian-foreign-ministers-claims/)** > > The Doctor at the centre of claims that snipers had killed people on both sides of the protests in Ukraine last month has denied telling Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet that policemen and protesters were killed in the same manner. The Doctor at the centre of claims that snipers had killed people on both sides of the protests in Ukraine last month has denied telling Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet that policemen and protesters were killed in the same manner. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/6 "2014-03-06T15:47:08Z")
> [@Doller](#): > > people in Northern Korea now got more truth There’s certainly a northern (little n) Korea but no “Northern Korea”. Mad props for the hyperbole, but it’s in a bit of bad taste to compare yourselves to a bunch of literally impoverished, drug addicted, starving people who don’t actually have any real news coverage, much less a steady source of electricity to run televisions/computers/printing presses. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/7 "2014-03-06T17:29:37Z")
Join Date: Mar 2014. Damn, I’m 2 for 2 on guessing the join date by the thread title this week. I’d like to think that means I’m clever, but it really just means the thread titles are ham-fisted and obvious, the other being **unacceptable: Ukraine nationalists in power call Chechen terrorists for help**. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/8 "2014-03-06T17:49:38Z")
Firstly, there are already too many threads about the Ukraine. Secondly, this has already been posted in one of them. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snipers-in-kiev-sbu-unveils-the-truth/683015/9 "2014-03-06T18:05:14Z")
**Moderator Action** Since this is already being discussed in other threads, I am going to close this one. Thread closed.