# Snl 12.15.12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 16, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162 "2012-12-16T04:34:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/21 "2012-12-17T01:16:21Z")

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> [@fusoya](#):
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> Hey it’s Nirvana! Only with some other left-handed guy singing and playing guitar…
> 
> What Up With That IS bullshit. Why do they keep doing that stupid sketch?

How dare you. What’s Up With That is inspired comedy television!

Actually, I know it’s dumb, but the combination of Hader as Lindsey Buckingham (on every show, but never permitted to speak) and Jason Sudeikis’ goofy dancing never fails to make me laugh. It’s just so ridiculously random.

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/22 "2012-12-17T01:27:54Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> How dare you. What’s Up With That is inspired comedy television!
> 
> Actually, I know it’s dumb, but the combination of Hader as Lindsey Buckingham (on every show, but never permitted to speak) and Jason Sudeikis’ goofy dancing never fails to make me laugh. It’s just so ridiculously random.

I’ll sit through anything to watch Sudeikis dance. And “That costs money” was great.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/23 "2012-12-17T02:23:34Z")

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I don’t watch a lot of SNL, but the Kenan’s singing is pretty addictive and that alone made it worth watching.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/24 "2012-12-17T02:30:08Z")

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I’d rather watch an hour of “What Up With That” instead of another minute of “The Californians.”

The Royal vagina sketch was really good. I was sort of shocked that they were going to do anything wrt the duchess’s pregnancy, in light of recent events, but it was good and well worth it.

Martin Short was very “classic.” I dug the episode. I like that they let Paul sing his Christmas song.

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**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/25 "2012-12-17T02:43:41Z")

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> [@Viridiana](#):
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> I only got to see it on Hulu; it looked like they cut out about 20 minutes! Can anyone tell me what I missed from the live show?

Samuel L. Jackson said “fuck” and “bullshit” during his What’s Up With That? appearance. Was that shown on Hulu?

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/26 "2012-12-17T04:26:22Z")

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They edited it out, as they did for the West Coast feed. Hulu also cut Martin Short’s opening monologue and the Alec Baldwin Tony Bennett sketch. Can’t remember what else wasn’t there.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/27 "2012-12-17T04:43:29Z")

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I thought the cold open with the children’s choir was spot on. Just the right note of acknowlegement of what happened without being heavy handed about it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/28 "2012-12-17T04:43:33Z")

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SNL has always been crap, with a rare weird exception. It is like the old Johnny Carson show, a collection of light entertainment that returns you to familiar faces telling mildly dirty jokes. Always was. Watch an old one in the light of day and be stunned at how awful it was. There are only a dozen really funny shows in 35 plus years. Cameron Diaz hosted one (if not two) of the funny ones. It is sex and fart jokes.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/29 "2012-12-17T04:47:32Z")

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> [@sco3tt](#):
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> Samuel L. Jackson said “fuck” and “bullshit” during his What’s Up With That? appearance. Was that shown on Hulu?

Kenan’s reaction/response was pretty good. As was the lady sitting next to Jackson, making the “zipped lips” motion without saying anything.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/30 "2012-12-17T05:08:59Z")

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> [@Jamicat](#):
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> It was Crap…What the hell was that shit?
> 
> This is the BIG TIME…DO SOMETHING…what a waste of something that coulda been. ☹
> 
> (you have to see it to know how I feel, nothing to elaborate on)

I watched it. It was mostly hokey, slapdash, ill-timed, repetitive and uninspired. By SNL standards, it wasn’t that bad.

Probably laughed most at the Charlie Brown commercial, but I thought the “Restoration Hardware” sketch had some clever lines (following their tradition of burying the most inventive/absurdist sketches near the end of the broadcast) and would’ve been even better if Martin Short weren’t having noticeable problems keeping up with the cue cards.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/31 "2012-12-17T05:18:14Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> SNL has always been crap, with a rare weird exception. It is like the old Johnny Carson show, a collection of light entertainment that returns you to familiar faces telling mildly dirty jokes. Always was. Watch an old one in the light of day and be stunned at how awful it was. There are only a dozen really funny shows in 35 plus years. Cameron Diaz hosted one (if not two) of the funny ones. It is sex and fart jokes.

Posts like this always crack me up… so somehow a show that has “always been crap” just happens to sneak onto network television for 30 some years… and the same with Johnny Carson… who let that one past the bean counters who figure out if a show actually makes money based on if people enjoy it or not.

And we also know that nobody likes McDonald’s despite their supposed success.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/32 "2012-12-17T05:56:22Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> How dare you. What’s Up With That is inspired comedy television!
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> Actually, I know it’s dumb, but the combination of Hader as Lindsey Buckingham (on every show, but never permitted to speak) and Jason Sudeikis’ goofy dancing never fails to make me laugh. It’s just so ridiculously random.

WUWT is rapidly becoming my favorite SNL skit ever. Sudeikis is money as the dancing fool - dude can actually dance his ass off - and the fake Kenny G and sweaty Kenan Thompson sells it for me. The random Tiny Tim body popper, Lady Grinch, and pop-and-locking elf killed me. That shit is awesome!

Not sure of what to make of the Nirvana part-reunion. I don’t know what atonal tune McCartney was banging out, but it seemed like a tremendous waste. Hey, at least Grohl’s crash cymbals work perfectly fine!

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/33 "2012-12-17T07:38:41Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I’d rather watch an hour of “What Up With That” instead of another minute of “The Californians.”

Second.

Just watching the monologue now. Hope it’s a good one.

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**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/34 "2012-12-17T08:24:11Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> They edited it out, as they did for the West Coast feed. Hulu also cut Martin Short’s opening monologue and the Alec Baldwin Tony Bennett sketch. Can’t remember what else wasn’t there.

They didn’t edit out Samuel L on _my_ West Coast feed. I was rather surprised/pleased.

So how many cameos were there - Kristen Wiig, Tina Fey, Tom Hanks, Samuel L Jackson, Paul Shaffer, Alec Baldwin… Anyone else I missed/forgot?

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/35 "2012-12-17T09:11:24Z")

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Did I miss the monologue? I’m watching it on [NBC.com](http://NBC.com) and it went right from that carolers to the Royal Vagina sketch??

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/36 "2012-12-17T12:58:17Z")

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Are you implying that McDonald’s _isn’t_ crap because a lot of people eat there, or that NBC also infuses SNL with laboratory-designed additives to fool your brain into thinking it’s good?

You actually make a pretty fair comparison, whether intentional or not. SNL is a lot like the McDonald’s of entertainment: universally recognized, predictable, designed to appeal to mass tastes, filled with empty calories— seems enjoyable enough in the moment, but when it’s all gone you wonder why in the hell you subjected yourself to it AGAIN and swear you’re going to find something better next time.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/37 "2012-12-17T13:46:24Z")

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I know this is tough for you to grasp, but some… actually many people actually enjoy McDonald’s.

Although I’m sure you are convinced that those “laboratory-designed additives” (Ketchup, Mustard?) also wipe out people’s memories so they forget repeatedly how horrible it was and return again week after week.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/38 "2012-12-17T13:54:51Z")

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To be fair to Jamicat, that cold open was maybe the least funny thing they’ve ever done.

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/39 "2012-12-17T15:00:04Z")

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I thought this was one of the best episodes of the season. The Kate Middleton Gyno sketch was hysterical! Martin Short was great!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-12-15-12/644162/40 "2012-12-17T15:10:40Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> I know this is tough for you to grasp, but some… actually many people actually enjoy McDonald’s.

An obvious truth I have made no attempt to deny.

If you’re actually interested in what I meant by “additives,” read _Fast Food Nation_ or at least [this excerpt](http://rense.com/general7/whyy.htm). It ain’t just ketchup and mustard; it’s science.

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