# SNL 5/16 - Louis CK's monologue - whoa **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236 "2015-05-17T13:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/41 "2015-05-18T01:41:06Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > well if you’re laughing you must find it amusing. i dont laugh at things that i dont find amusing. I have a suspicion that you don’t have that great a sense of humour. That’s ok. Takes all types. Eta: to clarify, if you think I find child molestation amusing because I laughed at those jokes, you have a disconnect with what humour and human laughter are about. Your level 11 empathy notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/42 "2015-05-18T01:44:20Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I have a suspicion that you don’t have that great a sense of humour. That’s ok. Takes all types. on the contrary. i wanted to start a web page at one point dedicated to comedians like george carlin and bill hicks. both controversial, but i doubt wither one would make jokes about child molesters. doug stanhope might. he (stanhope) has a lot of material find offensive. ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/43 "2015-05-18T01:46:39Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > So what you are saying is you find other peoples suffering to be humorous? In general? No. But you personally? Yes. Based on your posting history, I would find your suffering absolutely hilarious. Also, I imagine both Bill Hicks and George Carlin spinning in their graves upon learning that you’re a fan. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/44 "2015-05-18T01:47:18Z")
Make all the webpages you like. You still said I find child molestation amusing. And I hated George Carlin. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/45 "2015-05-18T01:48:48Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > on the contrary. i wanted to start a web page at one point dedicated to comedians like george carlin and bill hicks. both controversial, but i doubt wither one would make jokes about child molesters. doug stanhope might. he (stanhope) has a lot of material find offensive. You might want to listen to [this George Carlin bit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQA6UStpOyQ). Not specifically about child molestation, but the topic of what is fair game in comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/46 "2015-05-18T01:48:53Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Make all the webpages you like. You still ill said I find child molestation amusing. wait a minute, you laugh at jokes about child molestation and you want to imply that I am the one who is insensitive? ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/47 "2015-05-18T01:50:06Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > You might want to listen to [this George Carlin bit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQA6UStpOyQ). Not specifically about child molestation, but the topic of what is fair game in comedy. I find it very offensive ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/48 "2015-05-18T01:51:34Z")
I am not implying that at all. It’s just clueless. A child’s understanding of humour, if that. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/49 "2015-05-18T01:54:37Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I am not implying that at all. It’s just clueless. A child’s understanding of humour, if that. ok, so, you would find it funny if i made jokes about a chemotherapy patient wasting away and using the bathroom in their own pants? whats funny about that? i’m childish because i wouldnt find that funny? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/50 "2015-05-18T01:55:30Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I have a suspicion that you don’t have that great a sense of humour. That’s ok. Takes all types. Between this and the affirmative action thread, I have a suspicion that **Robert163** is a parody of an extremely knee-jerk liberal… ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/51 "2015-05-18T01:56:48Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Between this and the affirmative action thread, I have a suspicion that **Robert163** is a parody of an extremely knee-jerk liberal… and what are you supposed to be a parody of? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/52 "2015-05-18T02:03:54Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > ok, so, you would find it funny if i made jokes about a chemotherapy patient wasting away and using the bathroom in their own pants? whats funny about that? i’m childish because i wouldnt find that funny? You can find any jokes funny or not and I wouldn’t say a thing. But what I’m talking about is that you don’t understand that other people can find jokes about a subject funny without necessarily thinking the subject matter is funny. That’s what makes your understanding incredibly unsophisticated. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Orr\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ee59a6/32.png) [@Orr\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orr_G)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/53 "2015-05-18T02:08:51Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > To all the people claiming child molestation and mass shootings make good comedy, question: have you ever suffered such a tragedy? I have personally suffered a tragic, traumatic experience, although not specifically, directly, either of those topics. I also have had experiences in dealing with child molesters (I was lucky to avoid victimization), and have loved ones who were unable to avoid victimization. Humor has been an important resource for survival and recovery. During those times when emotions are raw, I find it quite effective to change the channel or turn the TV off. And sometimes when I feel like I need to connect with someone who understands the absurdity of horror, I seek out comedians who do dark humor well. Louie’s bit last night was, for me, a joy. I’ve spent more than enough time suffering and despairing. I’m grateful that there are comedians like Louie who can create humor around such difficult subjects, who can create joy. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/54 "2015-05-18T02:09:34Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > To all the people claiming child molestation and mass shootings make good comedy, question: have you ever suffered such a tragedy? I’m sure there were many people watching his monologue who’ve been robbed at gunpoint by a hooded black man. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/55 "2015-05-18T02:09:38Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > You can find any jokes funny or not and I wouldn’t say a thing. But what I’m talking about is that you don’t understand that other people can find jokes about a subject funny without necessarily thinking the subject matter is funny. That’s what makes your understanding incredibly unsophisticated. Sorry. Jokes about child molesters may very well be funny. But I would like to think people would have enough respect not to tell them or to laugh at them. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/56 "2015-05-18T02:12:00Z")
> [@Orr\_G](#): > > I have personally suffered a tragic, traumatic experience, although not specifically, directly, either of those topics. I also have had experiences in dealing with child molesters (I was lucky to avoid victimization), and have loved ones who were unable to avoid victimization. > > Humor has been an important resource for survival and recovery. > > During those times when emotions are raw, I find it quite effective to change the channel or turn the TV off. And sometimes when I feel like I need to connect with someone who understands the absurdity of horror, I seek out comedians who do dark humor well. > > Louie’s bit last night was, for me, a joy. I’ve spent more than enough time suffering and despairing. I’m grateful that there are comedians like Louie who can create humor around such difficult subjects, who can create joy. > [@buddha\_david](#): > > I’m sure there were many people watching his monologue who’ve been robbed at gunpoint by a hooded black man. What’s your point? I’m not saying people cant make such jokes. But if I knew it was part of their act i doubt I would buy a ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/57 "2015-05-18T02:19:13Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > ok, so, you would find it funny if i made jokes about a chemotherapy patient wasting away and using the bathroom in their own pants? whats funny about that? i’m childish because i wouldnt find that funny? > [@CarnalK](#): > > You can find any jokes funny or not and I wouldn’t say a thing. But what I’m talking about is that you don’t understand that other people can find jokes about a subject funny without necessarily thinking the subject matter is funny. That’s what makes your understanding incredibly unsophisticated. Sorry. I remember reading (here maybe) that nearly all comedy makes fun of someone. That’s sort of how it works. We laugh at someone else’s suffering. Even ‘family comedy’ Jim Gaffigan’s Hot Pockets routine works in several white trash jokes. Even leaving out the white trash part, the entire joke is predicated an everyone from the people that make it to the people that buy it being stupid. Robert, you wouldn’t find that funny and the way you stated it, it certainly doesn’t sound funny, but the right comedian can make it funny to people that don’t have a family member in the situation and, frankly, everything is going to insult someone, especially in the day and age of twitter. If comedians didn’t make fun of things that offended people, we probably wouldn’t have much, if any, comedy. Post some comedy clips you like and I’ll bet we can find a group that they offend. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/58 "2015-05-18T02:19:35Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > and what are you supposed to be a parody of? Dopers who temper their love of rude and crude usernames with a dash of creativity! ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/59 "2015-05-18T02:19:59Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Jokes about child molesters may very well be funny. But I would like to think people would have enough respect not to tell them or to laugh at them. Yes. I would be a much better person if I had managed to stifle my laughter and quickly made “tut tut” noises. Bravo for you that it happens naturally. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236/60 "2015-05-18T02:23:06Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Robert, you wouldn’t find that funny and the way you stated it, it certainly doesn’t sound funny, but the right comedian can make it funny to people that don’t have a family member in the situation and, frankly, everything is going to insult someone, especially in the day and age of twitter. If comedians didn’t make fun of things that offended people, we probably wouldn’t have much, if any, comedy. Post some comedy clips you like and I’ll bet we can find a group that they offend. Ok, look, of all the topics I’ve objected too in SDMB, this is probably one of the most benign. But I still think there is a line to cross of what goes too far in joking about unfortunate situations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-5-16-louis-cks-monologue-whoa/720236.md?page=4)