Q: What did the blind, deaf, diabetic, quadriplegic, cancer-suffering boy get for Christmas?
A: Molested.
So you were attacking people for laughing at a routine that you hadn’t even bothered to watch? How typical. :: rolleyes ::
ARE there any comedy topics which can be made without potentially offending someone? I can’t think of a single one.
Good for you, not being mainstream! Kudos!
“well people are going to be offended” is a pretty weak defense. It lumps all things that are offensive under the same standard, not matter how offensive or inappropriate they actually are.
I could come up with one easy enough too but that doesn’t mean I’m looking to smack down cancer patients.
It seems kind of patronizing treating people like they can’t be mentioned where people are laughing and can only be spoken of in hushed tones because they should be off moaning “woe is me”
I’d say “How did you like the joke about the mid-east?”
I would tell them to get fucked yet again because it is just a joke. Look, I have lost a dying daughter in my arms only to be taken away to the crematorium at the mandatory insistence of a nurse with a ten minute goodbye forever stopwatch. It is probably the most traumatic experience of my life by far yet I still find well executed dead baby jokes and others of the same ilk extremely funny.
Do you realize that humor is like color-blindness? Either you can see it or you can’t and you don’t appear to be capable of some forms of it that others can see. There is no problem with that as long as you recognize it is a simple deficiency on your part. Otherwise, we going to be here forever trying to explain that red and green really are different colors to someone who can never be convinced because they can’t perceive them in the first place.
[Quote=George Carlin]
I believe you can joke about anything. It just depends how you construct the joke, what the exaggeration is. Every joke needs one exaggeration; every joke needs one thing out of proportion.
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I know someone already linked to this for you, but you really need to try to understand what Carlin is saying here. Christ.
I never said inappropriate jokes can’t be funny But just because it’s funny does not mean it’s acceptable. Your “right” to be entertained seems to be more important to you than offending other people over very traumatic experiences they have had. Me personally I care about how my comments and actions affect other people.
But by that same logic only non offensive jokes should be allowed…unless they fall below some certain standard of offensiveness, set by who? you?
So again, how acceptable a joke is, seems to be up to you.
A line that I’ve always loved is ‘you don’t have the right to not be offended’, it comes with Freedom Of Expression. I assume you don’t want the government running around shushing you all the time because you said something or posted the wrong thing, right, well, with that comes the fact that other people can also say things that offend other people (or you). Don’t like it, change the fucking channel, walk away, leave the room, tell them to fuck off or, post about it on a message board and try to convince others. (I found the P&T clip while making sure I had the quote reasonably close to being in the right context). In other words, vote with your wallet.
Unless you’ve never offended someone or there’s no comedians you like that other people might find offensive, you’ve got no leg to stand on telling us that we’re wrong to like Louis CK.
I understand that you find the pedo jokes offensive, but I’m sure there’s a comedian you like that makes jokes that some other group is offended by and anything you said about Louis CK fans would when then apply to you.
Not enough apparently. Everyone thinks that they are correct and have a point to make but most don’t continue to argue against a whole thread of people posting on a pop culture topic. You screwed up a perfectly good thread with irrelevant comments that others had to suffer through for no good reason.
The most insidious form of narcissism is used as a weapon by the self-righteous.
You know what? If it’s more important for you to be entertained than it is to than it is for you to consider other people’s feelings, people who have been molested, I’m really wasting my time talking to you.
oh, ok, well thanks for your comments
Ain’t no thang. But instead of attempting to have a discussion or refute my points, you’ve just said the same thing (that) over and over for the last 3 pages. At best, you’ve been talking in circles, at worst, you’ve derailed the thread. If it’s a waste of time, you don’t have to participate in the thread.
Besides, didn’t you say you were done discussing this like 20 posts ago. You’re the one that keeps coming back.
What, is no-one going to mention the Israel/Palestine bit in the middle? Because that was fucking hilarious.
I can say anything I want and if people are offended that is their problem!!!
That’s pretty much the gist of your argument. So it seems I’m not the only one “talking in circles”.
:rimshot:
Cue the laugh track.
The crowd goes wild.
The difference is that I’ve made several different arguments in an attempt to change your mind while you keep saying the same thing. More or less that you don’t think that child molestation jokes are funny and that we shouldn’t laugh at them. I’ve tried to come up with well reasoned arguments, you’ve tried to make us feel bad for laughing at things that we found funny.
Here’s some quotes I can see on preview:
-Jokes about child molesters may very well be funny. But I would like to think people would have enough respect not to tell them or to laugh at them.
-yeah but doug stanhope could make it funny. well not to me.
-I wasn’t really that bad but I still think it would be better not to joke about such things
Hell, Paula Poundstone had a bit about someone that slipped and tore part of her face off on an oil rack and a gas station. Maybe that was offensive. What about all the comedians that made fun of the lady that spilled coffee on herself. She was so offended that her daughter made a documentary about it (watch it, it’s really interesting, those burns were horrible). Should those topics be off limits too?
Maybe you could come up with some pre-approved, non offensive topics that comedians can use. Problem is, I guarantee that there’s another group that will be just as offended by them as you are by this. Promise. I’ve seen people get outraged when someone writes a book that doesn’t include anyone with a disability. There’s always going to be someone.
You can’t make everyone happy all the time.
IDK where to draw the line. But that is a poor tactic, well, we don’t know “where to draw the line, therefor, you can’t criticize even the most heinous topics a comedian would want to talk about”. You (no offense) accuse me of “simplistic thinking” but that seems very “simplistic” to me.
Lets say he was accidentally booked to give a stand up routine at a christian college. What should be done in that situation? I don’t know. Should he proceed with his act? I don’t know. The point is there are some situations where you are going to offend people and in some situations it would be best to find a way not to do that.
Well the government definitely 100% should not be involved in any form of censorship of any comedian or any other art form. IDK if you like old movies. I don’t. I find them boring and bland. One of the major reasons for that I think is the censorship codes back then. Hay’s codes, public decency and whatnot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code
Beyond boring bland media I wouldn’t want to live in a society that was repressive and practiced official state censorship. But that doesn’t mean that I as an individual can’t object. Hopefully this is obvious.
I do not like that type of humor. But let’s just make a hypothetical. Let’s say I was the booking manager at a comedy club. I would book such acts but I would not want to watch them. Hopefully their fans would know enough about their content that no one was offended. If someone was offended and complained to me as a manager I would either refund their tickets or give them free tickets to another show and help them find a comedian they would actually like. I would even go as far as helping to promote comedians that I didn’t like their act or found it offensive. I’d probably even be friends with them. But that doesn’t mean I would like their content.
No, offense but isn’t this a strawman? Can’t you see the difference between “offense in general” and being offended at a very narrow, very specific, very traumatic subject that would most likely offend people who have had a very very very terrible experience. What is so wrong with saying that some, some very narrow exceptions, should not be subjects for comedic exploitation?
Well no one was ever hurt by that, it’s just stuff you see on the news. So those jokes are fine.
But seriously that was pretty funny too.
Then do yourself a favor: don’t ever, EVER, watch South Park.
As for joking about cancer, my favorite uncle died of cancer two years ago, after battling for ten years. And he himself joked about it the entire time.
My dad’s a funeral director. HE makes jokes about it. Sometimes you have to joke, or you’ll go insane.
Yes to the former. And I LOLed.
Have you been molested as a kid?