# SNL Jan 21, 2006, Carol before Midnight, WTF?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071 "2006-01-22T05:01:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/21 "2006-01-22T19:54:39Z")

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Yeah, not a very good episode… the best part was when the TV turned off during that hotel skit. They did a pretty good job of trying to fix it, but the look on Peter Sarsgaard’s face was funny.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/22 "2006-01-22T20:12:25Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> It sounds like I had a LOT more fun than you guys did last night. While you were watching _SNL_, I had the good fortune of tossing and turning in bed, unable to sleep because of a toothache!

I am jealous, you did have a more enjoyable night. 😉

> [@Rodgers01](#):
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> Pretty bad show. The only thing worth tuning in for, as is so often the case, was Weekend Update. The opening monologue had some promise, but it was quickly down hill from there.
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> I agree with the title of the thread – Carol? Before midnight?? WTF??? It’s pretty sad if she’s the show’s biggest current character. (And what a witty catchphrase: “I’m Carol.”) Is she in fact the show’s biggest character at the moment? Any others I’m missing? When was the last spin-off movie?

It is sad but the only other recurring character I can think of is Rachel Dretch’s annoying and depressing character.

When will Horatio be kicked off the show?

Jim

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/23 "2006-01-22T20:16:42Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> When will Horatio be kicked off the show?
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> Jim

Not soon enough.

I think they need to fire everyone after they’ve been on the show for, say, 3-4 years.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/24 "2006-01-22T20:58:09Z")

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If they did do a major purging of the cast, I’d want them to keep Chris Parnell, Amy Poehler, Seth Meyers, Kenan Thompson, Bill Hader, Andy Samberg (and his Lonely Island partners, the writers Jorma and Akiva), and Kristen Wiig. At this point, I wouldn’t miss any of the others, even fair Tina. Since she was head writer for so long, I wonder exactly how much of the show’s low points in the last few years can be blamed on her, vs. Lorne or any other specific parties.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/25 "2006-01-22T21:08:08Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> If they did do a major purging of the cast, I’d want them to keep Chris Parnell, Amy Poehler, Seth Meyers, Kenan Thompson, Bill Hader, Andy Samberg (and his Lonely Island partners, the writers Jorma and Akiva), and Kristen Wiig. At this point, I wouldn’t miss any of the others, even fair Tina. Since she was head writer for so long, I wonder exactly how much of the show’s low points in the last few years can be blamed on her, vs. Lorne or any other specific parties.

I would even drop Seth Meyers, otherwise I like the list. Maybe Tina could be demoted to NewsReader and a new Headwriter could be appointed. She is good at the News.

Jim

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/26 "2006-01-23T01:44:02Z")

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I don’t mind Sarsgaard, but there was little to watch here except Young Chuck Norris.  
How could “Carol!” have survived this long?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/27 "2006-01-23T01:45:43Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> How could “Carol!” have survived this long?

Dead-from-the-neck-up writers.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/28 "2006-01-23T01:50:44Z")

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It’s a lot easier to try and get audience reaction from recognition, as opposed to quality.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/29 "2006-01-23T03:52:32Z")

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Meh. I didn’t think it was horrid, especially compared to the other eps this season. But then again, I do find Sarsgaard quite foxy, so that helps.

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**Author:** ![Baraqiyal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@Baraqiyal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baraqiyal)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/30 "2006-01-23T05:39:17Z")

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I was moderately surprised and amused by the Shattered Glass parody, a movie that didn’t even get theatrical release. I wasn’t even sure that’s what they were going for until I realized that Peter Sarsgaard played the same roll in the movie that he was playing in the skit.

I thought that the pirate skit was funny too so I guess that shows that I’m too easily amused.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/31 "2006-01-23T08:19:33Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> The Cat Fancy thread was freaking my cats out. They were all looking at the TV with distressed expressions, since it sounded like some poor kitty was being tortured… no, it’s just a Siamese being himself. 😉
> 
> The Strokes also sucked bigtime. Julian was yowling worse than the Siamese. I don’t remember them being this bad last time they were on.
> 
> Drew Barrymore making fun of her Golden Globes outfit was funny. I’m glad she realizes that her dress was horrendous.

But surely they could have somehow had Amy Poehler and Tiny Fey fondling her ACTUAL breasts instead. Would’ve been better.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/32 "2006-01-23T08:35:28Z")

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Baraqiyal writes:

\> I was moderately surprised and amused by the Shattered Glass parody, a  
\> movie that didn’t even get theatrical release.

Yes, it did. It didn’t get a very big theatrical release, but it got one. According to the IMDb, the most screens that it was showing on simultaneously (in the U.S.) was 215, which isn’t a big release, but it is a release.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/33 "2006-01-23T08:45:39Z")

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> [@Baraqiyal](#):
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> I was moderately surprised and amused by the Shattered Glass parody, a movie that didn’t even get theatrical release.

Yeah it did. I saw it in the theater. It wasn’t a big release though.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/34 "2006-01-23T09:08:26Z")

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I think the big problem has to be Tina Fey. She’s the head writer, so the blame has to fall on her. The case is plenty talented and has all the comedy chops they need. It’s just the writing and skit selection that’s putrid.

I have hopes that will change. The new guys on the cast, especially Bill Hader and Andy Samberg, are excellent, and it seems that Lorne knows it because those two have been showing in new skits faster than any other ‘rookies’ I can remember. Usually new cast members have to fight for air time and you see very little of them until they prove themselves. But these guys are getting featured roles already. Bill Hader’s Vincent Price show a few episodes ago was absolutely hilarious.

They need to let the new writers from Lonely Island have more work, tone down Tina Fey and her clique, and dump Horatio and a couple of others. And while I used to like him, I haven’t seen Seth Myers do anything funny in quite a while. He might have to go.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snl-jan-21-2006-carol-before-midnight-wtf/341071/35 "2006-01-23T14:15:54Z")

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Wow. Rotten episode.

I’ve liked Sarsgaard as an actor, but geez. . .Steinbrenner flubbed fewer lines when he hosted.

Now I wonder if Sarsgaard is just a “one trick pony” actor. He always seemed really good to me, but he didn’t seem to have much here.

The “Young Chuck Norris” seemed like Parnell and Samberg trying to keep the momentum going from Narnia, but it was just lame. Forgettable lyrics. Forgettable tune. Forgettable graphics.

But I did think the pirate skit was funny.

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