# Snoopy and the Red Baron

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 23, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711 "2013-03-23T03:54:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/61 "2013-03-27T21:07:39Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> A Fokker Trimotor is a real thing (a 1920s commercial airliner). But not what Clancy was thinking of when he wrote about the Red Baron flying around in a red one.

Ah, thanks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/62 "2013-03-27T21:09:02Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Von Richtofen flew a Fokker Triplane (the Dr-I), not a Fokker Trimotor. I fail to see how anyone could confuse the two.

Clancy _is_ a Republican. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/63 "2013-03-27T22:47:50Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Clancy _is_ a Republican. 🙂

As opposed to Democratic congresswoman Sheila Lee Jackson who in 1997 asked NASA if the Mars Pathfinder had photographed the flag Neil Armstrong planted on Mars. Naturally it is racist to point this out because you can’t expect a left wing black woman who graduated from Yale and University of Virginia School of Law to know the difference between Mars and Earth’s moon.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/64 "2013-03-27T23:15:21Z")

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No, it’s racist to point it out because it has nothing to do with the topic at hand and you appear to have mentioned it solely to comment about race.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/65 "2013-03-27T23:23:43Z")

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The SE5a seems much more of a doghouse than the Camel ever did.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/66 "2013-03-27T23:57:13Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No, it’s racist to point it out because it has nothing to do with the topic at hand and you appear to have mentioned it solely to comment about race.

Congresswo/men are stupid, whatever their race or gender. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/67 "2013-03-28T00:04:44Z")

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> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#):
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> I’ve mentioned this here before, I’m sure, but every time I watch _It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown_ (every Halloween, like clockwork) I’m struck by the fact that it represents a last vestigial pop-cultural memory of World War I. Of course, that special debuted, in the year of our Lord and of my birth 1966, when World War I veterans were scarcely above retirement age.

The introduction of the “Snoopy v. Red Baron” plotline in the cartoon was apparently October 10, 1965, which makes it closer to the end of WWI than it is to today.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/68 "2013-03-28T00:51:02Z")

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> [@Icerigger](#):
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> For fans of the Camel check this out:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6PnKUEFX8g](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6PnKUEFX8g)

More like this, please.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/69 "2013-03-28T01:03:24Z")

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> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#):
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> Every time I watch _It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown_ (every Halloween, like clockwork) I’m struck by the fact that it represents a last vestigial pop-cultural memory of World War I.

I was going to say that would be _The Blue Max_, which I thought came out in 1969. Turns out it was released in 1966 too. (I must have seen it for the first time on television a few years later.)

The aerial photography in _The Blue Max_ was superb (but watch the trailer and see how clean everything in the trenches is).

> **[The Blue Max (1966) ⭐ 7.1 | Action, Drama, Romance](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060177/)**
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> 2h 36m | Approved

Not too long ago, I watched _Flyboys_ on AMC. Not a bad movie, lots of CGI instead of real airplanes, but the battle scenes were pretty brutal. In one, a German fell out of his cockpit at 10,000 feet; later on, another took a round right through the crown of his head.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/70 "2013-03-28T01:46:38Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I was going to say that would be _The Blue Max_, which I thought came out in 1969. Turns out it was released in 1966 too.

That means I was 11 years old when I saw my first movie titty. Thanks, Ursula!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snoopy-and-the-red-baron/653711/71 "2013-03-28T01:55:11Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> That means I was 11 years old when I saw my first movie titty. Thanks, Ursula!

I was ten. My Father took me. I had no idea WTF was going on. 🙂

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