# Snopes's Evil Twin **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 11, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598 "2003-07-11T00:40:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![macabresoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@macabresoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/macabresoul)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/21 "2003-07-11T03:57:39Z")
Oh god the picture on the front page had me dying laughing. Not because it’s a pedophile… But because I thought that was a picture of Pat Robertson soliciting children from his car. whew…I’ll stop laughing know. Damn that’s still funny. ---
**Author:** ![macabresoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@macabresoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/macabresoul)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/22 "2003-07-11T04:12:18Z")
This is from the ‘born gay’ urban legend. > [@](#): > > This persistent urban legend has been perpetuated not only by homosexual activist groups but by prestigious organizations like the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association. Oh my god this guy is so hilariously full of shit. I can’t stop laughing at the fact that he takes himself seriously. > [@](#): > > There is hope for homosexuals through developing a relationship with Jesus Christ, through both religious and secular counseling programs, and through support groups that provide accountability for those struggling with same-sex attractions and self-destructive behaviors. Why am I not suprised. Where does this dickhead get off. (heh) Hey Pat, there is hope for pathological assholes such as yourself. Developing a relasionship with my middle finger, you may attend support groups that emphasize my middle finger and these groups will provide accountability for lying assrags who spread lies and hate. yea Pat, I’m talking to you shithead. ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/23 "2003-07-11T04:15:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Priam \* > \*\*I believe (don’t quote me here, because sometimes my memory goes kaput) Kinsey’s study wasn’t exactly the problem. He didn’t take the figures any further than what portion of the population fell where on his scale. However, when he released the study, media sources started adding up all they could for sensationalism and the figure of 10% stuck. \*\* IIRC, Kinsey measured sexual “behaviours”, not “orientation” per se. As we all know, an heterosexual individual may well engage in an homosexual act or behaviour – particularly in childhood – without this affecting his or her self-identification as a heterosexual. This may account for the oft-bandied about 10% figure: perhaps it includes to the percentage of the population who have engaged in a homosexual _act_, but who may not necessarily describe themselves as homosexual. (Again this is all IIRC; I really don’t want to look up Kinsey while at work. :)) > [@](#): > > Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men. Ha. Someone should look up the definition of “invariably” before juxtaposing it with “almost all”. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/24 "2003-07-11T04:15:55Z")
What’s even funnier about that front page picture ( funny in a very sick, twisted way) is that the first thing I thought of after I saw such a comical depiction of a guy luring kids to his car was, noting that these children depicted look to be asian/chinese, was, " Hey, he’s getting carry out tonight." I’m going to rot in hell, I know it. Anywhoooo, why are these loonies so bent out of shape about male-gay sex? There is never any of the hell raising about lesbianism/lesbianites as much as guy stuff. I 've always found this interesting in a non-porn way. And then there is this ahhh…boner if you will: > [@](#): > > This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. Well, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/25 "2003-07-11T04:34:39Z")
Perhaps a simple email to this person to point out the logical fallacies that fill up his website and he will post an apologetic retraction… Ok. Probably not. But it may be worth a try. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/26 "2003-07-11T04:52:53Z")
Just in case anyone is so daft as to actually put an apple and a piece of tape together and come up with 4 re: pedophile and sexuality statistics, it should be thoroughly noted that the two are exclusive. And anyone who says differently is invited to interview my dead grandfather, who was a pedophile and whose ten victims (of whom I am aware, at least) were 5 girls and 5 boys. Of his children who became, to any degree, pedophiles, the split is essentially the same as far as I have been told. IE the pedophiles involved molested whoever was available and “safe”. Such a lovely post to be writing right before I go to bed. Takers on what sort of nightmares I’ll be having? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/27 "2003-07-11T05:23:14Z")
I was reading the articles and, at first, I was laughing my ass off. This stuff is utterly absurd. Then I started reading more and I began to get angry. The way they misuse statistics and rely on logical fallicies is criminal. Particularly egregious is they way the juxtaposed quotes from the founder of ACTUP and Hitler. Oh and by the way, Pat, “homos” aren’t the only ones who partake in “deviant acts” such as anal sex, oral sex, golden showers and fisting. Straights do it too. Dipshit. Haj ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/28 "2003-07-11T06:25:21Z")
ephephilia - I haven’t heard of this, but IIRC I have heard of “hebephilia” which comes from the greek word for “youth”, and is used by (ok I don’t know whether to say homosexual or paedophile because it depends on your moral and legal judgement) men that find young pubescent men sexually attractive. Ie young males of around 15/16. Men that like boyish youths and young men. Personally, I regard an 18 year old guy going out with a 15 year old guy as a normal gay man. I regard a 48 year old guy going out with a 15 year old as a paedophile. In fact the genders are irrelevant, if it was a man/girl, woman/boy I would feel the same. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/29 "2003-07-11T07:45:35Z")
**Shirley** , you’re not the only one going to hell. As soon as I read your post and saw the pic, I heard Bruce Springsteen singing, “Hey little girl, is your daddy home? Did he go away and leave you all alone?” ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/30 "2003-07-11T12:33:57Z")
> [@](#): > > **There is hope for homosexuals through developing a relationship with Jesus Christ** Erm, what kind of relationship did he have in mind? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/31 "2003-07-11T13:02:48Z")
The banner makes it all clear; homosexual paedophiles are easily recognised because they look like Bruce Willis, but have green faces. I have learned something today. ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/32 "2003-07-11T13:48:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by istara \* > **I haven’t heard of this, but IIRC I have heard of “hebephilia” which comes from the greek word for “youth”, and is used by (ok I don’t know whether to say homosexual or paedophile because it depends on your moral and legal judgement) men that find young pubescent men sexually attractive.** Really? I thought that meant you had a thing for, say, Fran Drescher, Barbra Streisand, _Rhoda_… 😃 As for the link, I’m not following it. I already know what it says, and I’m not in the mood to ruin my day, but fuck these people and all the vicious lies they stand for. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/33 "2003-07-11T13:58:06Z")
## quote: ## Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls). Uh. How are we supposed to take this? Is he saying that in a world without gays 100% of the victims of child sexual abuse would be girls (instead of ‘only’ 67+%) and that would be better? ---
**Author:** ![Janx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Janx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Janx)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/34 "2003-07-11T15:27:05Z")
Oh. My. God. I’m going to have to stop reading the pit. It’s getting far to overwhelming, learning just how fucked up and delusional some people are. And that’s on a quiet day. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/35 "2003-07-11T16:23:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Blalron \* > Perhaps a simple email to this person to point out the logical fallacies that fill up his website and he will post an apologetic retraction… Sadly, some people are taught that “logical fallacy” or anything resembling that phrase ACTUALLY means “INSULTING THE PERSONAL NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SUFFERED AND DIED FOR US, AND ON THE THIRD DAY ROSE AGAIN, …” ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/36 "2003-07-11T17:36:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \* > > * * * > > ## There is hope for homosexuals through developing a relationship with Jesus Christ > > \*\*Erm, what kind of relationship did he have in mind? \*\* “Suffer the little children to come unto me”? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/37 "2003-07-11T19:43:24Z")
_{sigh}_ And people wonder why I’m so adamant. ☹ Esprix ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/38 "2003-07-11T20:21:57Z")
> [@](#): > > “Suffer the little children to come unto me”? And vice versa, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/39 "2003-07-11T22:18:49Z")
So **this** is why the fight against ignorance has been taking longer than we though! :eek: (Pat Robertson’s continued existence is proof there is no God.) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598/40 "2003-07-11T23:30:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \* > \*\*Erm, what kind of relationship did he have in mind? \*\* No, Jesus, no! Bad touch! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snopess-evil-twin/187598.md?page=3)