# snother stupid self-inflicted Clinton wound: Bill & Loretta meeting **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 1, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867 "2016-07-01T15:06:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/1 "2016-07-01T15:06:12Z")
> **[Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton meeting raises eyebrows](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/30/loretta-lynch-bill-clinton-meeting/86555274/)** > > Attorney general, former president cross paths in Phoenix as email inquiry continues. I’m a bit surprised that Bill Clinton would do something so obviously stupid, but then, we’re talking about Bill Clinton, so maybe it shouldn’t be such a shock. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/2 "2016-07-01T15:19:06Z")
Another non-issue the GOP will bloviate about until long after they’ve realized the American public doesn’t give a damn. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/3 "2016-07-01T15:20:11Z")
He’s a pathologic glad-handler. “We’re parked on the tarmac next to Lynch? Oh I gotta say hello!” Hillary is the constant overthink before saying without considering how it will be played … Bill just does. For a smart man he can be really really dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/4 "2016-07-01T15:21:02Z")
Are you trying to sell me a subscription to USA Today? Because that’s all I got from your link. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/5 "2016-07-01T15:23:05Z")
Complete non-issue, but if anyone were to be at fault, it would be Lynch, not Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/6 "2016-07-01T15:27:48Z")
Only those already disinclined to vote for Hillary will be outraged by it. To her credit, Lynch said she will accept the recommendation of the FBI so she’s effectively a non-participant in the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/7 "2016-07-01T15:29:37Z")
That link doesn’t take me to a story. That’s a remarkably lazy OP. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/8 "2016-07-01T15:33:14Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > For a smart man he can be really really dumb. For 25 years, I’ve been noting that Bill Clinton’s stats in Dungeons & Dragons would be: Intelligence: 18 Charisma: 21 Wisdom: 3 ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/9 "2016-07-01T15:34:30Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > That link doesn’t take me to a story. That’s a remarkably lazy OP. Sorry, posting on phone. The link takes me to the story when I click it, but here’s another couple of links: > **[Bill Clinton meeting causes headaches for Hillary | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch/index.html)** > > A meeting this week between Attorney General Loretta Lynch and former President Bill Clinton is creating headaches for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. > **[Bill Clinton & Loretta Lynch meeting: ‘Incredibly bad judgment’ | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/opinions/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-meeting-opinion-callan/index.html)** > > The Arizona tarmac meeting between former President Bill Clinton and U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch raises questions, writes Paul Callan ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/10 "2016-07-01T15:36:57Z")
Thanks. Sorry for the lazy crack. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/11 "2016-07-01T16:00:57Z")
He spoke to her! Well, shit, has to be about the e-mail scandal that is raging across the country like mildfire! Nobody, anywhere, is talking about _anything_ else, so that _has_ to be it! ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/12 "2016-07-01T16:03:53Z")
How is this a story? Non-issue. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/13 "2016-07-01T16:06:20Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > How is this a story? Non-issue. A Clinton did something. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/14 "2016-07-01T16:27:08Z")
Is it just me, or is the bigger question here “Why did Lynch’s security detail allow somebody unexpected to just walk into her plane?” ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/15 "2016-07-01T16:29:18Z")
I wonder how many millions the Pubbies will want to spend on the Special Prosecutor for this. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/16 "2016-07-01T16:30:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > A Clinton did something. …and that so disappointed **HurricaneDitka** that it convinced him to switch parties and vote Republican this year! ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/17 "2016-07-01T16:31:39Z")
The utter lack of any expectation of ethical standards for the Clintons on this board is quite breathtaking. Whether you like the Clintons or not, there are things to do and things to don’t. Among the things to don’t: Don’t have a private meeting with the Attorney General who oversees the department that is investigating your wife. Especially when you and your wife have a giant [trust problem](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/08/hillary-clintons-honest-and-trustworthy-numbers-are-lower-than-ever-it-might-not-matter/). It is mindbogglingly stupid. It looks bad, it makes you invest energy and time into defending a stupid ass decision, and it feeds into the general distrust the public feels. Of course, expecting our politicians to be honest, smart and ethical is silly. Slee ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/18 "2016-07-01T16:32:01Z")
> [@](#): > > …“Why did Lynch’s security detail allow somebody unexpected to just walk into her plane?” Bill travels with his own posse, called the Secret Service. Ms Lynch’s team glared at them, they glared back, then Bill said “Hi!”. No shots were fired. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/19 "2016-07-01T16:32:01Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Is it just me, or is the bigger question here “Why did Lynch’s security detail allow somebody unexpected to just walk into her plane?” Presumably, their respective Secret Service details have some sort of handshake … ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867/20 "2016-07-01T16:32:14Z")
This was a stupid move on the part of both parties. It just gives ammunition to the morons who would rather talk about non-issues than anything of actual import. And then Lynch took it further by announcing she’d abide by the decisions of the prosecutors, effectively recusing herself from the process. If they wanted to talk about their grandchildren as Lynch has claimed they just needed an objective third party on hand for plausible deniability that there was no impropriety. As has often been speculated before, I think Bill doesn’t want Hillary to be president. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snother-stupid-self-inflicted-clinton-wound-bill-loretta-meeting/758867.md?page=2)