# Snow White and other questions **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385 "2022-01-25T22:04:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/41 "2022-01-26T17:40:47Z")
> [@chela](#): > > What makes that old Disney movie even relevant today that they think a live action movie is just the thing? It’s Disney’s way of extracting more money from moviegoers without the effort of coming up with new ideas, obviously. Re Porgy and Bess etc. - there was evidently a bit of an uproar in response to a recent revival of The Wiz - claiming the producers etc. were racist for having an all-black cast. The stupid, it burns!! ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/42 "2022-01-26T17:56:37Z")
Getting back to Dinklage for a minute, when I read his rant in the other thread, he came across exactly as he does in the movie Elf. That’s all I have to add. I wonder (yes, it must have been done) if there was ever a porno with a woman and seven male little people. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/43 "2022-01-26T18:00:32Z")
There are two absolute rules in the Universe. The speed of light and Rule 34. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/44 "2022-01-26T18:02:22Z")
Well, I’m not searching for it. (opens incognito window…screams) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/45 "2022-01-26T18:02:25Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > “I want my mermaids white like they are in real life.” 🤪 I want the other kind of mermaid, with the fish part on top and the lady part on the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/46 "2022-01-26T18:02:52Z")
Jeez, warn us before you do that. Now I gotta wipe up a bunch of snot-coffee. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/47 "2022-01-26T18:03:45Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > It’s Disney’s way of extracting more money from moviegoers without the effort of coming up with new ideas, obviously. One can hardly blame them; this approach basically prints money. It would be irresponsible, from a fiduciary standpoint, to NOT pump out more live action remakes, reimaginings, Marvel and Star Wars content, etc. when every time they do it they make a $200 million profit. It’s risk free money. They will figure out some way to assuage the public’s feelings around the sense that the “Seven Dwarfs” bit is insensitive. Hell, we don’t actually know for sure if that will be the title. They haven’t even started production yet; Dinklage is basically reacting to a vague story in the trades. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/48 "2022-01-26T18:07:50Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yikes. It’s a fairy tale, FFS. It’s not a real story about real people with achondroplasia. > > Is it okay to say “fairy” tale? This, and your whole OP, is performative outrage. Get the fuck outta here with that weak shit. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/49 "2022-01-26T18:09:26Z")
Disney is making the same mistake today as it did in the 70s. These animation-to live films are today’s _Herbie The Love Bug._ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/50 "2022-01-26T18:09:51Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I want the other kind of mermaid, with the fish part on top and the lady part on the bottom. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZIBLgLNLX2g/hqdefault.jpg "Family guy-The merman") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIBLgLNLX2g) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/51 "2022-01-26T18:11:43Z")
Well certainly. But aren’t there Americans who could bring their talents to bear and not have to appropriate the accent and culture of another country while doing so? Mostly, I used to be surprised when I’d catch a talk show and find out just how many of the current crop of TV and movie stars are British or Australian. Now I’m almost surprised when they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ranch\_Dip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranch_dip/32/5238_2.png) [@Ranch\_Dip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranch_Dip)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/52 "2022-01-26T19:04:21Z")
Only tangentially related to the OP: I never thought movie dwarves (like Snow White and LOTR) were humans with dwarfism. I always thought they were a different species like the elves are not human? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/53 "2022-01-26T19:12:49Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > People get upset when a straight person is cast in a gay role, or a hearing person in a deaf role, or any number of other cases (some more clearly objectionable than others, but in all cases it is called “acting” for a reason). Why is it OK to cast good-looking English/Australian people as good-looking Americans? Usually, the objection here is that by giving a minority role to someone who isn’t part of the minority takes the job away from an actor who is part of the minority. And while, of course, giving a role to any actor takes away that role from every other actor, when it happens regularly to people who are part of a visible minority, it effectively segregates that minority out of the industry. If a deaf person wants to work as an actor, they’re going to have problems getting cast for roles for non-deaf characters, and that aren’t a lot of deaf characters being written. If the few deaf characters that do get written go to actors who aren’t deaf, then you’re effectively blocking deaf people from being actors entirely. That’s not really a problem for “good looking Americans.” If a good looking American loses out on a role to a British actor, there are still thousands and thousands of other roles for good looking Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Ranch\_Dip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranch_dip/32/5238_2.png) [@Ranch\_Dip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranch_Dip)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/54 "2022-01-26T19:17:48Z")
It also has to do with representation. If you are in a marginalized group, and you never see anyone like you in the arts, it’s a problem. Case in point: Black Panther. To me, it was a good movie, solidly in the Marvel universe. To POC, it was the first time to see not only a main character super hero, but the main cast was black. It was a powerful movie to them on a whole different level. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/55 "2022-01-26T19:19:06Z")
> [@Ranch\_Dip](#): > > I never thought movie dwarves (like Snow White and LOTR) were humans with dwarfism. I always thought they were a different species like the elves are not human? In LotR that is absolutely true. Completely different species with a long lifespan, originally created from stone, etc. They were inspired by the dwarves of Norse mythology. Interestingly, most scholars consider them synonymous with the “black elves” in Norse mythology, while Tolkien had light and dark elves in Middle Earth as separate from dwarves. I’m not as certain about Snow White, but the original folk tale was German I believe (Grimm’s Fairy Tales) and dwarves in Germanic folklore [aren’t human either](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_(folklore)). ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/56 "2022-01-26T19:23:57Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Disney is making the same mistake today as it did in the 70s. > These animation-to live films are today’s _Herbie The Love Bug._ From [boxofficemojo.com](http://boxofficemojo.com), worldwide gross: Maleficent(2014) - $758 million Cinderella(2015) - $542 million Beauty & The Beast (2017) - $1.2 billion Maleficent:Mistress of Evil (2019) - $491 million Lion King (2019) - $1.6 billion Aladdin (2019) - $1.05 billion Mulan (2020) - $66 million, but not released in theaters in most of the world Cruella (2021) - $283 million I wish I made “mistakes” like that. And I have no idea why you’re referring to Herbie the Love Bug. My 10 year old self thought that movie was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/57 "2022-01-26T19:29:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How long until some group (you tell me who) sues some production company insisting that _Porgy and Bess_ be presented with an all-white cast? I really do think that the reason the motion picture versions of Porgy and Bess aren’t available, and that the reason nobody’s making a new one, is to avoid any sensitive discussions about this work. Even without insisting on an all-white cast, this is a potential minefield. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/58 "2022-01-26T19:33:19Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I want the other kind of mermaid, with the fish part on top and the lady part on the bottom. They did a **Night Gallery** episode with that – Lindemann’s Catch, first aired January 12, 1972. I thought it was pretty stupid, although probably well-written. > **["Night Gallery" Lindemann's Catch/A Feast of Blood/The Late Mr. Peddington...](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0660789/)** > > 30m | TV-PG > **[Night Gallery story “Lindemann’s Catch” reviewed here](https://davidjuhl.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/night-gallery-story-lindemanns-catch-reviewed-here/)** > > A longtime fisherman, angry and bitter at his lot and at the sea, finally snares something to change his heart—a mermaid—in this Night Gallery review of “Lindemann’s Catch.” Season 2 Episode 16—air… ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/59 "2022-01-26T19:35:15Z")
I saw that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385/60 "2022-01-26T19:37:16Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Even without insisting on an all-white cast, this is a potential minefield. Asking the question here certainly created a minefield. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/snow-white-and-other-questions/958385.md?page=4)