# So An Ex-Friend of Mine Is Apparently In Prison For Kiddie Porn

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 18, 2006, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165 "2006-06-18T10:05:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/1 "2006-06-18T10:05:02Z")

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The guy who inspired [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=307858) and [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=225313) is apparently sitting in a Canadian prison for possession of kiddie porn. What he was doing in Canada (and what part of Canada he was in), why he had the kiddie porn, and how he got busted, I’ve no idea. It is somewhat surprising that he would have the stuff, he’s certainly not the kind of person I would suspect of having the stuff. One of my college roommates supposedly got busted with the stuff, but it wasn’t really surprising in that case.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/2 "2006-06-18T10:33:50Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> It is somewhat surprising that he would have the stuff, he’s certainly not the kind of person I would suspect of having the stuff.

There are a lot of pedophiles/child pornographers/etc. who are spectacularly good at not arousing suspicion.

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**Author:** ![Becky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@Becky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/3 "2006-06-18T11:48:18Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> There are a lot of pedophiles/child pornographers/etc. who are spectacularly good at not arousing suspicion.

Man, isn’t that the truth. A fellow that my husband and I went to college with, who became a high-school math teacher, was recently busted for having a lengthy affair with one of his male students. The affair started when the student was 13 years old. Our friend’s wife had no idea that it was happening. It sure threw us for a loop. Nobody in our social circle ever had a sneaking suspicion or weird vibes or anything to suggest that something was going on.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/4 "2006-06-18T21:01:08Z")

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> Fuck you, you sonofabitch. Jim died impovershed, almost alone, and in the grips of AIDS dementia, and you’re getting fat off of his corpse. If I can help it, I’m going to find a way to fuck you back.

It looks like some other power did it for you! 😃

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/5 "2006-06-18T21:15:28Z")

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I was surprised to learn that one of my co-workers had been arrested 2 years prior to my meeting him for kiddie porn. He seemed normal enough, and we even gawked at the hot (20-something) females that walked in together. Never would have guessed that a few years before that, he was…well, yeah.

The sad thing is, they just got around to putting him in prison a few months after I met him.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/6 "2006-06-18T22:19:17Z")

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It isn’t Philip Glass, is it?

Because I _like_ his music.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/7 "2006-06-18T22:23:13Z")

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> [@Electronic Chaos](#):
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> I was surprised to learn that one of my co-workers had been arrested 2 years prior to my meeting him for kiddie porn.

I’ll take “When word order wrongly implicates you” for $100, Alex.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/8 "2006-06-19T00:53:48Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> There are a lot of pedophiles/child pornographers/etc. who are spectacularly good at not arousing suspicion.

Yeah, but the guy had **zero** interest in porn whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/9 "2006-06-19T00:57:11Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Yeah, but the guy had **zero** interest in porn whatsoever.

Not to get overly personal or cryptic or anything, but just how well did you know him, and all that?

(Most predators who target children, whether for interpersonal assault or for porn, are very good at not getting caught or arousing suspicion.)

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/10 "2006-06-19T00:58:22Z")

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And did he have zero sex drive or zero interest in mags like playboy and hustler?

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/11 "2006-06-19T01:48:52Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> And did he have zero sex drive or zero interest in mags like playboy and hustler?

Exactly. I was about to ask the same question.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/12 "2006-06-19T03:11:57Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> And did he have zero sex drive or zero interest in mags like playboy and hustler?

Well, he’s gay, so Playboy and Hustler don’t interest him at all. He’s been married for over ten years now to a guy he met over a BBS, and presumably they have a healthy sex life (I never asked about that, because, well, I don’t want to know about it, ya know?) and I know one of his ex-lovers (who’s 6’4" blonde haired, blue eyed and about 350 lbs, he’s certainly _not_ child like).

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/13 "2006-06-19T03:27:45Z")

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Hee hee! I was giggling too much to read this to my Mom when I first saw it. Good call.

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/14 "2006-06-19T03:28:46Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> I’ll take “When word order wrongly implicates you” for $100, Alex.

Aaand, here’s the post to which I was replying.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/15 "2006-06-19T03:44:18Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Well, he’s gay, so Playboy and Hustler don’t interest him at all. He’s been married for over ten years now to a guy he met over a BBS, and presumably they have a healthy sex life (I never asked about that, because, well, I don’t want to know about it, ya know?) and I know one of his ex-lovers (who’s 6’4" blonde haired, blue eyed and about 350 lbs, he’s certainly _not_ child like).

Look … I don’t mean to be a dick or overwhelm you, but when I said this:

“There are a lot of pedophiles/child pornographers/etc. who are spectacularly good at not arousing suspicion.”

I meant it.

Those who are vets here or who otherwise have really good memories have been told more’n a little about my immediate and extended family.

Let’s just say that having a healthy/exuberant/whatever adult sex life necessarily means **nothing** when it comes to what you want to do to kids/watch being done to kids.

If you (or anyone else) want more information, I’m happy to provide more details in e-mail. I just want to fight the impression that child predators are obvious.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/16 "2006-06-19T04:01:21Z")

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Yeah, I know a great deal about pedophiles, and trust me, when I say that it was a bit of surprise for me to find out that he got busted for it, but I wasn’t surprised when someone else I knew got nabbed with the stuff. There’s generally subtle behavioural cues that you can pick up on, which this guy didn’t give off. AFAIK, his only fetishes were bondage and furries. He was heavily into Tom of Finland comics as well, nor was he of the sophisticated type who’d be into something and keep it secret. He was always wanting to show people how smart and “artistic” he was, so he never missed an opportunity to tell you about his shamanistic experiences, oddball movies (Kenneth Anger and the like), and music that he’d “discovered.” This guy has a colossal ego, you know the kind where when he walks outside, it causes a total eclipse. If he was into something, he _had_ to tell you about it, so that you could tell him how cool he was. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-an-ex-friend-of-mine-is-apparently-in-prison-for-kiddie-porn/361165/17 "2006-06-19T04:39:32Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> This guy has a colossal ego, you know the kind where when he walks outside, it causes a total eclipse. If he was into something, he _had_ to tell you about it, so that you could tell him how cool he was. :rolleyes:

Which, in turn, makes it colossally easy to hide anything he doesn’t want revealed.

But whatever. Seeing it in one person doesn’t mean you’ll see it in anyone else; some people are obvious and happen to be pedophiles, and some people are very, very crafty and happen to be pedophiles.

Hell of a lot more people in the latter category, in my experience. I don’t like it, and it makes me thoroughly uncomfortable at times (as with reading that recent pit thread, until it was revealed that the … being in question was being insincere), but 's just how it is, from what I can tell.
