# So and So is "TEH SUXORS!!!" Whaaaaa??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 16, 2003, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699 "2003-10-16T01:45:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/1 "2003-10-16T01:45:28Z")
What is this baffling internet-speak? If I read “CUBS ARE TEH SUXORS!!!” does that translate as “The Cubs are the suxors” or “The Cubs are the suckers”? Why is “the” misspelled as “teh”? What does that mean? I can see the shortened “sux” for “suck” but I don’t get the “teh”. Where can I get educated about this? I’m so behind… ---
**Author:** ![TaxGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TaxGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TaxGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/2 "2003-10-16T01:54:48Z")
I don’t think you want to be educated about it, really. “Teh” is just r33t h4cxors speak for “the,” cuz it’s cool. (Obviously :rolleyes: :D) ---
**Author:** ![sigSEGV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@sigSEGV](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sigSEGV)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/3 "2003-10-16T01:54:51Z")
I could be wrong, but I believe that a lot of that is imitation of JeffK speak. [http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/](http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/) ---
**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/4 "2003-10-16T01:59:26Z")
So what Tax Guy just typed was: “Teh” is just _reet hackers_ speak for “the” Right? ---
**Author:** ![Sarah23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sarah23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarah23)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/5 "2003-10-16T02:14:01Z")
That would be leet hackers. I’m not sure what “leet” is slang for, however. Possibly “elite” but I’m not positive. Teh suxors means “they suck” or something to that effect. “teh w00t” would mean “cool” “teh secks” = “sexy” and so on… ---
**Author:** ![censored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/35a633/32.png) [@censored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/censored)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/6 "2003-10-16T02:27:47Z")
“r33t” comes from “l33t”, which comes from “leet”, which comes from “elite.” ‘teh suxors’ means ‘they suck’, the teh is just added on for good measure. ---
**Author:** ![AoErat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@AoErat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AoErat)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/7 "2003-10-16T02:30:38Z")
1337, leet, etc directly translates to “elite”. The phrase “TEH SUXORS” means [object] sucks. Depending on context, it could be sarcastic, lighthumored, but rarely very serious. “teh” is a common miss-spelling of “the” when one is typing too fast. Thus, it caught on to deliberately miss-spell it. “suxors” is a derivative of “rox/roxors”, or “rocks”. It is the opposite,obviously. the “xor” suffix is added for parallelism, basically. Hope this helped. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/8 "2003-10-16T03:27:08Z")
Sux0rs - possible antonyms: rox0r, awesome (e.g. - “OMGWTFLOL!!!1111 You all sux0r - I am teh awesome!!1!111”) ---
**Author:** ![bradministrator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@bradministrator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bradministrator)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/9 "2003-10-16T03:52:39Z")
This thread makes me LOLLERSKATE!!!11oneone ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/10 "2003-10-16T04:16:04Z")
It’s supposed to be funny. Another favorite: OMG Cubs IS huge, LOL!! ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/11 "2003-10-16T05:00:02Z")
“they r teh suxx0rs” = they suck “they r teh r0xx0rs” = they rock “they r teh fuxx0rs” = they’re screwed ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/12 "2003-10-16T05:13:03Z")
**Cecil Adams** on [What the heck is “leetspeek?”](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030110.html) ---
**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/13 "2003-10-16T12:47:11Z")
I will second that I picked it up (and I assure you, I use it only for intended humor) from [www.somethingawful.com/jeffk](http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk). Hint: JeffK is not a real person. e;f;b Leslie CarOWNED! ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/14 "2003-10-16T13:01:21Z")
[http://ghastly.keenspace.com/d/20020512.html](http://ghastly.keenspace.com/d/20020512.html) Note that Ghastly’s comic is NOT work safe. And sometimes quite offensive. However, it does offer a good definition of 133+5p34k. ---
**Author:** ![Eegba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Eegba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eegba)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/15 "2003-10-16T15:19:11Z")
Nothing to add on the subject, just a pointer to [my favorite example](http://devney.net/~matthew/paste) of 133+5p34k. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/16 "2003-10-16T16:18:38Z")
Suddenly it all makes sense now. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/17 "2003-10-16T16:30:29Z")
Y’all forgot my very favorite aspect of leet, which is the exclamation marks. The most egregious is when the following happens: “Teh CUBS Suxors!!!11!!ONE!111” ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/18 "2003-10-16T18:46:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Munch \* > \*\*Y’all forgot my very favorite aspect of leet, which is the exclamation marks. The most egregious is when the following happens: > > “Teh CUBS Suxors!!!11!!ONE!111” \*\* It should be noted that the use of all caps + many exclamations points + some 1s is derived from BIFF, the prototypical idiot leetspeaker. ---
**Author:** ![dead0man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@dead0man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dead0man)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/19 "2003-10-16T19:48:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JSexton \* > \*\*It should be noted that the use of all caps + many exclamations points + some 1s is derived from BIFF, the prototypical idiot leetspeaker. \*\* Wait, there is a 1331 speaker that ISN’T an idiot? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699/20 "2003-10-16T20:44:38Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by dead0man_ > **Wait, there is a 1331 speaker that ISN’T an idiot?** ¥3@µ, 7µ053 //µ0 |)0||7 //@|\<3 @ µ@ß¡7 0ƒ 7µ¡5. Once one gets used to writing 1337, one probably doesn’t need as much intelligence. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-and-so-is-teh-suxors-whaaaaa/207699.md?page=2)