# So apparently #Calexit is trending **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147 "2016-11-09T07:03:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/1 "2016-11-09T07:03:45Z")
[https://twitter.com/hashtag/Calexit?src=tren](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Calexit?src=tren) Normally I’m against this sort of thing… but I am tempted. Even so, just out of pure spite I want to stick around to bring down my political enemies in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/2 "2016-11-09T07:09:14Z")
Sure, let the flag of Cascadia wave proud while we’re at it. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/3 "2016-11-09T08:58:08Z")
I’m down. I don’t want this new all-'pub juggernaut messing with my newly legal weed. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/4 "2016-11-09T08:59:52Z")
I have long supported a Constitutional Amendment setting forth a peaceful secession process. The EU has one, why can the US? ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/5 "2016-11-09T09:04:25Z")
Also, aren’t we like 80% of the U.S. economy anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/6 "2016-11-09T09:04:53Z")
We stay together. We stay strong. Sent from California. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/7 "2016-11-09T16:19:09Z")
I propose [this](http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/6/67/FNV_NCR_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20110423115845) as the flag. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/8 "2016-11-09T16:32:00Z")
I’m all for it. I was born there. Don’t live there now, but I’d walk across the country barefoot to get back if they actually did it. ---
**Author:** ![ultimate11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/49beb7/32.png) [@ultimate11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultimate11)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/9 "2016-11-09T16:36:08Z")
But if California leaves, then Trump wins the popular vote and makes this a blowout election. Anyways, California can’t exit. Not with their debt. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/10 "2016-11-09T16:45:28Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Also, aren’t we like 80% of the U.S. economy anyway? :dubious: Try 14%. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/11 "2016-11-09T16:59:59Z")
[Could Christmas really come three times this year](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b9/8b/c2/b98bc2baf92362f404c8a3daaf4c77a4.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Wednesday\_Evening](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Wednesday\_Evening](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wednesday_Evening)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/12 "2016-11-09T17:17:32Z")
I’m a Californian and have thought for years that we should secede. We have tons of resources and the 8th largest GDP in the world, might as well be our own country. The rest of the US is just holding us back. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/13 "2016-11-09T18:47:44Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > :dubious: Try 14%. Same difference. (I was exaggerating for effect of course, but the point is that we’re a huge chunk of it) ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/14 "2016-11-09T19:09:02Z")
Hmmm…I wonder what the [State of Jefferson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)) proponents think about this. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/15 "2016-11-09T19:12:57Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Calexit?src=tren) > Normally I’m against this sort of thing… but I am tempted. Even so, just out of pure spite I want to stick around to bring down my political enemies in the future. Can you give some sort of summary of what you’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/16 "2016-11-09T19:33:08Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Can you give some sort of summary of what you’re talking about? Brexit = Britain’s exit from the EU Calexit = California’s exit from the US (secession) ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/17 "2016-11-09T19:42:22Z")
The significant contributors to California’s GDP is in order: international trade, agriculture, then energy. The reason international trade is the largest is because of the ports in Los Angeles, Long Beach and Oakland. Most of the goods coming from those ports end up on trucks or rail cars traveling east to the rest of the US. If California seceded from the US, there would be strong support to build competing ports in Oregon and Washington to bring goods into the US, to avoid going through the country of California. Similarly, if California were to secede, there are other places to grow fruits and vegetables (South Texas, New Mexico) to displace crops grown in another country. With the recent advances in fracking technology, energy demands from California’s oil production could easily be displaced by other areas in Texas, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/18 "2016-11-09T19:57:01Z")
CA seceding doesn’t mean it and the US have to be enemies and cut off all trade & commerce any more than the UK has to be completely isolated from the EU. People can still eat California produce, drink California wine, watch Hollywood movies, visit Disney, enjoy the beaches, etc. I imagine for most people the change would be almost unnoticeable. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/19 "2016-11-09T21:50:18Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > The significant contributors to California’s GDP is in order: international trade, agriculture, then energy. > > The reason international trade is the largest is because of the ports in Los Angeles, Long Beach and Oakland. Most of the goods coming from those ports end up on trucks or rail cars traveling east to the rest of the US. If California seceded from the US, there would be strong support to build competing ports in Oregon and Washington to bring goods into the US, to avoid going through the country of California. > > Similarly, if California were to secede, there are other places to grow fruits and vegetables (South Texas, New Mexico) to displace crops grown in another country. With the recent advances in fracking technology, energy demands from California’s oil production could easily be displaced by other areas in Texas, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. I doubt California would have much of an agricultural economy left after the first year. The Republic of California isn’t going to have the same access to water rights the State of California has. ---
**Author:** ![Smitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Smitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smitty)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147/20 "2016-11-09T22:09:16Z")
I suspect the people pushing this are the same ones that mocked Texas for the exact same childish petulance when Obama was elected. In fact, I’m noticing a huge swath of similarities in Democrats’ behavior today and Republican behavior 8 years ago. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-calexit-is-trending/771147.md?page=2)