# So apparently I'll be the Cinematographer **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 24, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904 "2015-03-24T22:56:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904/21 "2015-04-12T23:23:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He sent them some Ultra-16, which they said they did. He got back standard 16 on the digital file. They re-did it for him at no charge. Shouldn’t have any problems with super-16. What’s up with these labs? Surely they know it’s Super or Ultra-16?? It’d certainly be cheaper for them to just do it right the first time. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904/22 "2015-04-12T23:47:55Z")
I’ve been out of the game for a while, and I’d never even _heard_ about [Ultra-16](http://www.cameraspro.com/ultra16cameraspro.html) until my friend told me about it within the last several months. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904/23 "2015-04-13T05:54:55Z")
I never heard of it until this thread! It seems it’s double perf (unlike Super-16’s single perf) so regular 16 lenses line up correctly and you just need to change masks. It sounds nice. I’d love to shoot some. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904/24 "2015-04-13T14:58:12Z")
Yes, the gate is widened on both sides, and cropped vertically so you can use single-perf or double-perf and the lenses stay centered; whereas for super-16 only one side is widened, it uses the full vertical dimension, you have to use single-perf film, and the lens is offset 1 mm. It tempts me to have my Éclair NPR modified, but with the super-16 cameras I should just sell it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904/25 "2015-05-05T19:10:50Z")
ARGH! Just typed a post and I had to reboot! :mad: Anyway, my friend sent me still from the footage I shot. Looks good. He’ll upload the footage later. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to share it. So we’ll use the Aaton LTR-7 with a PL-mount Zeiss, Optex-modified, 12-120mm T2.4 super-16 lens. Based on some shots I got in the forest, and since we’ll be shooting in the swamps, we’ll be using Kodak 250D Vision 3 stock. I’ll pack my ND3 and ND9 filters, plus a #85 in case we need to use tungsten film outside. I’m wondering if I should keep my LTR-54. It’s a newer camera and has a faster top speed, but the lens I have with it only covers super-16 from 22mm out. I’ll either need to get a super-16 lens for it, use it at 22mm and longer focal lengths, or sell it and put the money toward an XTR Prod. (In which case I’ll sell the LTR-7 too, and use the lens I have with the XTR.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-apparently-ill-be-the-cinematographer/715904.md?page=1)