# So at least eight men have sexually assaulted at least ten developmentally disabled women....

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 7, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750 "2011-01-07T15:15:47Z")
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### Author: ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/1 "2011-01-07T15:15:47Z")

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[Link here](http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/06/california.rape.disabled/index.html?hpt=T2).

Just when I thought the human race couldn’t sink any lower, it does.

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### Author: ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/2 "2011-01-07T15:52:57Z")

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Unfuckingbelieveable. What scum. To paraphrase Dirty Harry (I think), killin’s too good for some people.

But it works for me. Especially if it’s slow and painful.

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### Author: ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/3 "2011-01-07T16:23:45Z")

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It’s one of those crimes that’s hard to empathize with, to put it that way.

I can see, on some level, the desire to rape a good-looking woman. But this? Masturbation or a blow-up doll would be better. And if it’s the desire to dominate, how satisfying can it be to dominate someone in a care facility?

In a funny way it is hard to work up outrage, because it creeps me out so bad. I don’t understand it on _any_ level.

Ick. Just ick.

Regards,  
Shodan

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/4 "2011-01-07T16:28:25Z")

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It’s especially sad to see how far Randy Jackson, B-Real, and Jermaine Jackson have fallen, but the one on the left is obviously a chick in drag.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/5 "2011-01-07T16:28:58Z")

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> [@OP](#):
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> Just when I thought the human race couldn’t sink any lower, it does.

Despicable, utterly indefensible and disgusting.

A low point in human depravity? Not even close.

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### Author: ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/6 "2011-01-07T16:35:26Z")

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I’m kind of surprised that they didn’t release photos from the videos. While I’m sure that the videos show a lot of X-rated action, I think that they could probably take some stills and crop out or black out everything but the faces of the rapists.

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### Author: ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/7 "2011-01-07T16:41:03Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> A low point in human depravity? Not even close.

Depressingly, this is correct. We’re the species who use mass rape of women and girls as a military tactic.

Does the death penalty apply for this sort of thing?

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### Author: ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/8 "2011-01-07T16:42:19Z")

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It’s sad but I’m not surprised. I’ve read that disabled/mentally challenged women tend to be at a very high risk of being raped/sexually assaulted due to their vulnerability.

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### Author: ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/9 "2011-01-07T16:50:10Z")

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Makes me wonder who got a hold of the video and dropped it off at the cops’ door?

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/10 "2011-01-07T16:58:05Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Depressingly, this is correct. We’re the species who use mass rape of women and girls as a military tactic.
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> Does the death penalty apply for this sort of thing?

For the stuff in the OP? Not in the US. Didn’t the SCOTUS recently rule that the death penalty can only by applied for murder?

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### Author: ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/11 "2011-01-07T17:03:49Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> For the stuff in the OP? Not in the US. Didn’t the SCOTUS recently rule that the death penalty can only by applied for murder?

More or less. Either the victim has to die or the crime has to be “against the State” for the death penalty to be constitutional, so the death penalty for treason or espionage is presumably still technically operational (though I don’t think its been used since the Rosenbergs)

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### Author: ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/12 "2011-01-07T17:15:06Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It’s one of those crimes that’s hard to empathize with, to put it that way.
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> I can see, on some level, the desire to rape a good-looking woman. But this? Masturbation or a blow-up doll would be better. And if it’s the desire to dominate, how satisfying can it be to dominate someone in a care facility?
> 
> In a funny way it is hard to work up outrage, because it creeps me out so bad. I don’t understand it on _any_ level.
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> Ick. Just ick.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

And here is the evidence for what so many people find impossible to accept: the things that press our buttons effectively do so because they speak to something inside ourselves, whether that thing is operational or not.

Thank you!

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### Author: ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/13 "2011-01-07T17:16:26Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I’m kind of surprised that they didn’t release photos from the videos. While I’m sure that the videos show a lot of X-rated action, I think that they could probably take some stills and crop out or black out everything but the faces of the rapists.

From the OP’s [link](http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/06/california.rape.disabled/index.html?hpt=T2):

> [@cnn.com](#):
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> “The extremely disturbing videos are not being released to the public, but photos from portions of the video are being released in an effort to identify some of the suspects and at least one room depicted,”

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### Author: ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/14 "2011-01-07T17:30:58Z")

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If they had the videos in March of last year why is this just now being made public?

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### Author: ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/15 "2011-01-07T17:38:22Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> It’s sad but I’m not surprised. I’ve read that disabled/mentally challenged women tend to be at a very high risk of being raped/sexually assaulted due to their vulnerability.

The parents of the “[pillow angel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Treatment)” cited the risk of becoming pregnant due to rape in a care facility as one of their reasons for seeking the extreme treatment for their daughter that hit the headlines in 2007. I always thought it was, sadly, common.

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### Author: ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/16 "2011-01-07T17:39:50Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Makes me wonder who got a hold of the video and dropped it off at the cops’ door?

That popped out at me in the article too. Thank you, anonymous tipster

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### Author: ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/17 "2011-01-07T17:44:11Z")

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Maybe it’s just the way the article was written\*, but how come this is just getting attention from the cops when the videos were dropped off last March? What have they been doing with them in the interim?

- “starting from scratch” makes it sound like they’re at the very beginning of their investigation.

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### Author: ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/18 "2011-01-07T18:20:49Z")

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[Two suspects identified.](http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/07/california.rape.disabled/index.html?hpt=T2)

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### Author: ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/19 "2011-01-07T19:40:32Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I can see, on some level, the desire to rape a good-looking woman.

It somehow doesn’t surprise me in the least to hear that from you.

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### Author: ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/20 "2011-01-07T19:42:56Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> It somehow doesn’t surprise me in the least to hear that from you.

Yes, be outraged.

On some level, I can understand the desire to kill people who piss me off. \*\*Shodan \*\*and I must be monsters.

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