# So at least eight men have sexually assaulted at least ten developmentally disabled women.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750 "2011-01-07T15:15:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/41 "2011-01-07T22:19:50Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Consider the charming practice some places of raping infants under the theory that sex with a virgin cures AIDS. If you want to ridicule Texas, start a new thread. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/42 "2011-01-07T22:21:03Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > > [@Shot From Guns](#): > > > > It somehow doesn’t surprise me in the least to hear that from you. > > > [@Shodan](#): > > > > I can see, on some level, the desire to rape a _good-looking woman_. > > I think you’re safe enough. OK, now _that’s_ funny. Cruel, but funny. ETA: So is **Vinyl Turnip**. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/43 "2011-01-07T22:22:15Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > If you want to ridicule Texas, start a new thread. South Africa. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/44 "2011-01-07T22:22:21Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Of course you can. And disgusting as rape is it is hardly beyond all comparison, there are other things as bad or worse. Torture and genocide come to mind. So, would you leap to the defense of someone who said, “I can see, on some level, the desire to toture and kill all the Jews. But why would you ever want to torture and kill all people with blond hair?” The important point is the distinction. It sets up a dichotomy: on some level its comprehensible to want to torture and genocide Jews, but it’s incomprehensible to want to torture and genocide blonds. Get it now that I’ve explained it _repeatedly_? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/45 "2011-01-07T22:28:57Z")
Somebody needs to go to Metaphor School. It’s more like saying “I can see why a genocidal maniac would want to kill all of the Jews. But why did he kill Bob? Bob isn’t Jewish.” ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/46 "2011-01-07T22:34:45Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh, you mean the part where he said “lol j/k”? The part I quoted was the only relevant part: Where Shodan admitted what a truly disgusting waste of biomass he is, by conceding that he can actually see someone’s physical attractiveness as an excuse to commit one of the most horribly abusive acts possible against them. Thumbs up, buddy–stay classy. Tune in next week, where \*\*Shodan \*\*enlightens us on how he sometimes gets why the KKK lynches niggers, especially when the neighbor kids play their rap music so damned loud. Wow. You’re actually dumber than I thought. Either that, or more dishonest. Of course, that “or” could very well be an “and”. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/47 "2011-01-07T22:34:53Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So, would you leap to the defense of someone who said, “I can see, on some level, the desire to toture and kill all the Jews. But why would you ever want to torture and kill all people with blond hair?” > > The important point is the distinction. It sets up a dichotomy: on some level its comprehensible to want to torture and genocide Jews, but it’s incomprehensible to want to torture and genocide blonds. > > Get it now that I’ve explained it _repeatedly_? I understand why someone would want to kill pissy bitches. But it’s incomprehensible to me that some people pick random people to kill. How’d I do? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/48 "2011-01-07T22:39:02Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So, would you leap to the defense of someone who said, “I can see, on some level, the desire to toture and kill all the Jews. But why would you ever want to torture and kill all people with blond hair?” > > The important point is the distinction. It sets up a dichotomy: on some level its comprehensible to want to torture and genocide Jews, but it’s incomprehensible to want to torture and genocide blonds. I don’t see why. The fundamental problem with anti-Semites is that Jews _aren’t_ the demonic creatures the anti-Semites paint them as; not that their impulse to kill the evil creatures they claim Jews to be is incomprehensible. Just look at the people in this thread mentioning their impulse to see the rapists in the OP killed. If Jews _really were_ all blood drinking, baby eating, civilization destroying monsters then they’d be quite a bit worse than those rapists are. And if blonds were the innately evil types that some anti-white racists claim they are then wanting to kill blonds is also comprehensible. But in both cases such a position is wrong because the claims justifying that hatred are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/49 "2011-01-07T22:45:56Z")
I understand why the Klan liked to kill blacks, but why would the Grand Wizard wear sandals? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/50 "2011-01-07T22:54:16Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > South Africa. Never heard of it. What part of Texas is it in? > [@Walmarticus](#): > > I understand why the Klan liked to kill blacks, but why would the Grand Wizard wear sandals? Because it’s all hot and humid in the south. You’d wear sandals too. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/51 "2011-01-07T22:57:58Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So, would you leap to the defense of someone who said, “I can see, on some level, the desire to toture and kill all the Jews. But why would you ever want to torture and kill all people with blond hair?” > > The important point is the distinction. It sets up a dichotomy: on some level its comprehensible to want to torture and genocide Jews, but it’s incomprehensible to want to torture and genocide blonds. > > Get it now that I’ve explained it _repeatedly_? Still not getting it. Maybe if you tried a less stupid analogy? ---
**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/52 "2011-01-07T23:30:42Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Still not getting it. Maybe if you tried a less stupid analogy? Yeah, I’m not getting it either. Maybe someone else can explain it? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/53 "2011-01-07T23:39:02Z")
“On some level, I can understand someone stealing money, but not used Kotex.” Does that help? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/54 "2011-01-08T00:06:21Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Hrm, remind me which of us has never submitted a picture anywhere? How’s lonely life the in parents’ basement, Mr. Fat ‘n’ Ugly? Seriously? > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > What? How is that different from “I can understand the desire to rob a bank” or “I can understand the desire to kill your irritating neighbor”? Everyone has uncivilized impulses and desires, whether we give in to them or not. Exactly. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > That’s why \*anybody \*who says that they “can see, on some level, the desire to rape a good-looking woman” and simultaneously \*not \*understand the desire to rape a mentally retarded one is _fucked up_. Because it means that \*\*Shodan \*\*understands the desire to force his penis into the vagina of a woman who doesn’t want it there simply because he finds her attractive, for his sexual pleasure Yes. > [@](#): > > and her \. No. A does not follow B. In fact, it is because Shodan (presumably) does not have any desire for B in spite of A that he does not (presumably) rape. In fact some more: the fact that Shodan is silly enough to believe that rape is about finding someone hot at all, for anyone, demonstrates very clearly that B is not what his thoughts or words were about. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/55 "2011-01-08T00:07:19Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > “On some level, I can understand someone stealing money, but not used Kotex.” > > Does that help? > > Regards, > Shodan You fucking thief! You disgust me. I am disgusted. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/56 "2011-01-08T00:09:09Z")
You know, i understand where **Shodan** was coming from, and i know that he wasn’t advocating or defending rape, but i still find the sentence somewhat remarkable. Because, while i can, on some level, understand wanting to kill someone, or to rob a bank, i literally cannot comprehend the desire to rape someone, attractive or not. I can comprehend the desire to have sex with someone who might not want to have sex with you, but that’s not the same as a desire to rape them. Sex is, for me, about mutual attraction and enjoyment. If someone doesn’t want to have sex with me, i can harbor the desire to have sex with them, but that would never extend to a desire to rape them, because for me the attraction and the enjoyment that constitute the basic reasons for having sex in the first place would be completely absent in an act like rape. If i felt the desire to murder someone, it’s probably because i would have some particular reason to hate them, or to seek revenge upon them. The act and the nature of my desire would be in accord. But if i want to have sex with someone, it’s because they appeal to me in some way, and the last thing i would want to do to such a person is hurt or terrorize them, which is precisely what rape would do. As i said, i sort of understand what motivated the comment, and i don’t think it was a defense or an excuse for rape, but i literally cannot make myself understand the desire to rape someone. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/57 "2011-01-08T00:51:11Z")
Just wanted to pop in to point out that the link saying two people had been identified notes that the person who tipped off the cops was apparently a computer tech. He was hired to clean a laptop that someone bought cheap off the streets, and the video was on it. Sounds like one of these scumbags got robbed, or didn’t clean a computer before pawning it, or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/58 "2011-01-08T01:19:00Z")
Shodan is one of my least favorite people on this board, but dayum, his point was clear. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/59 "2011-01-08T02:47:31Z")
I don’t think **Shodan** was saying necessarily that he had a desire to rape anyone. It wasn’t the part about a beautiful woman, it was saying, “it’s hard to empathize.” That somehow, ugly women never get raped, or that eeeww, ick, they raped somehow who’s _gross_. Or mostly, I just found his comment completely insensitive. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/60 "2011-01-08T03:28:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I don’t think **Shodan** was saying necessarily that he had a desire to rape anyone. It wasn’t the part about a beautiful woman, it was saying, “it’s hard to empathize.” > > That somehow, ugly women never get raped, or that eeeww, ick, they raped somehow who’s _gross_. > > Or mostly, I just found his comment completely insensitive. So the fuck what? As you hijacked an ATMB thread to tell me, it’s the fucking Pit. If you can’t take it, get the hell out. As for SfG: I’ve been lurking at the Giraffeboards again. She honestly cannot think rationally around the subject of rape. I assume she’s been raped, and is not dealt with it to the point where she can discuss it rationally. If she gets offended by what you say, it’s always your fault, and you’re always scum.\* As for the OP: eeeeeew. But I have to somewhat agree with **Shodan** –it doesn’t affect me as much as it should. But I think the reason is that it’s so heinous, it’s hard to process it as actually being real. And, honestly, I’m glad about that. I know that this stuff is horrible–I don’t need to empathize to learn that. \*Of course, it would help if people would apologize for accidentally offending her. Still, this is the Pit, so I don’t expect it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750.md?page=4)