# So at least eight men have sexually assaulted at least ten developmentally disabled women.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750 "2011-01-07T15:15:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/121 "2011-01-13T10:49:55Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I don’t know what the solution is, unless society approves of women carrying a taser and using it on men who won’t take no for an answer. Can I use it on women who play coy too? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/122 "2011-01-13T12:22:40Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Can I use it on women who play coy too? I think that’s only fair. After all, they’re part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/123 "2011-01-13T17:52:21Z")
I just saw a news story that one of the men has turned himself in and been arrested. Of course, I can’t find the cite right now, but it was on a major news site. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/124 "2011-01-13T18:05:09Z")
The LAPD has identified [at least two suspects](http://www.whittierdailynews.com/news/ci_17037809), one of whom is already in prison for an unrelated assault on a “dependent adult”. Is that what you were thinking of? ---
**Author:** ![Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fake_Tales_of_San_Francisco)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/125 "2011-01-13T19:01:31Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > most rapes have shit to do with what the victim looks like. Most have to do with the power to dominate.. and the ability to dominate and the means to dominate. How could you possibly know this? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/126 "2011-01-13T19:10:45Z")
Well, it is potentially knowable, at least within a margin of error. However, [some people say the\* rape=power \*meme](http://www.menstuff.org/columns/farrell/07.html) is horse shit, with cites. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/127 "2011-01-13T19:23:45Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Prostitutes cost money; there’s no reason to factor “power” into it any more that pretending that a mugging is about power. And most rape victims know their attacker, so one obvious reason to pick rape over a prostitute is convenience; in the mind of a rapist why go looking for a woman when one is right there? It’s definitely true that rape is often a crime of opportunity, and the number is supposedly over 80% of rape victims know their assailant. Moreover, it’s important to remember that in many (I’d suppose the majority, but I don’t have the numbers here right now) cases of rape, the person perpetrating the crime does not think he is doing anything wrong. Often as well, the victim of the crime may not be aware that what has happened to her is rape. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/128 "2011-01-13T23:17:31Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Often as well, the victim of the crime may not be aware that what has happened to her is rape. How is this possible? I think a woman would know ‘I didn’t want to, and he made me.’ is rape. Unless you’re talking about dead drunk unconscious, and even then, I think most women would know they didn’t consent. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/129 "2011-01-13T23:47:11Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > How is this possible? I think a woman would know ‘I didn’t want to, and he made me.’ is rape. Unless you’re talking about dead drunk unconscious, and even then, I think most women would know they didn’t consent. I can look up the numbers tomorrow, but in a survey a large percentage of women described experiences which fell under the legal definition of rape, but were not aware that what had happened to them was rape. For a personal example, I was talking to a female friend who mentioned her boyfriend had agreed with her he was going to use a condom, but had penetrated her without one, and yet she was unaware that was legally rape because he (eventually) stopped when she was complaining he didn’t have a rubber on. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/130 "2011-01-14T02:26:08Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > How is this possible? I think a woman would know ‘I didn’t want to, and he made me.’ is rape. Unless you’re talking about dead drunk unconscious, and even then, I think most women would know they didn’t consent. Some women think that accepting a date implies consent, especially if her date spends a lot of money on her. Some think that being someone’s longtime girlfriend implies that she has consented to having sex at any time with him. And of course marital rape has been illegal for a fairly short period of time. It used to be that a husband COULDN’T legally rape his wife…when she said “I do”, then legally, she said “I will, whenever he wants to”. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/131 "2011-01-14T17:54:36Z")
> [@bup](#): > > That’s what **SfG** thinks it’s about. […] **Shodan** doesn’t say rape is about wanting to make fuck with sexy, sexy ladies, nor does he say he would be OK with it if it were about that (which is what **SfG** is retardedly insisting). 1.) What do I think what’s about, exactly? I’m waiting with bated breath here to discover my own opinion. 2.) I don’t know how many more times I can explicitly say that I don’t think \*\*Shodan \*\*is saying rape is acceptable. Are you illiterate or just skipping everything I write? > [@jsgoddess](#): > > Shodan: I don’t get it. I don’t understand rapists. If their motivation were X, I could kinda understand, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. > > SFG: You idiot! You don’t understand rapists! > > Shodan: I know. I said that. > > SFG: My god! You monster. You jerk! You don’t understand rapists! Could you be any further off the mark of what I’m saying? This has always been about \*\*Shodan \*\*revealing himself to be absolutely loathsome by a turn of phrase that indicates his own deep-seated and perhaps even subconscious views about rape why rape happens. The very fact that he cannot comprehend these rapes, while he can understand the rape of a physically attractive woman, means that he is vile and disgusting, at least in my opinion. You may disagree with my assessment, but if you agree with him that raping an attractive person makes some kind of sense, however twisted and unacceptable, while raping a mentally retarded person doesn’t, you’re probably about as fucked up. Which would, coincidentally, explain why you’re leaping to his defense. Nobody likes to think of themself as being disgusting on the inside. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/132 "2011-01-14T18:08:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You may disagree with my assessment, but if you agree with him that raping an attractive person makes some kind of sense, however twisted and unacceptable, while raping a mentally retarded person doesn’t, you’re probably about as fucked up. Which would, coincidentally, explain why you’re leaping to his defense. Nobody likes to think of themself as being disgusting on the inside. You don’t like to think of yourself as being unreasonable, either. But you continue to demonstrate it by your statements in this thread. I am curious, by the way, if you mean to equate “makes some kind of sense” with “can figure out how someone with mental issues gets from Point A to Point B even though I’d never follow those steps myself.” Because, as stated above, that’s how I took **Shodan** ’s statement. And therefore, by your logic, any criminal psychologist is fucked in the head. Maybe that IS what you’re saying. I just want to understand it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/133 "2011-01-14T18:23:51Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > I am curious, by the way, if you mean to equate “makes some kind of sense” with “can figure out how someone with mental issues gets from Point A to Point B even though I’d never follow those steps myself.” Because, as stated above, that’s how I took **Shodan** ’s statement. And therefore, by your logic, any criminal psychologist is fucked in the head. Maybe that IS what you’re saying. I just want to understand it. Ah, but I highly doubt that any criminal psychologist would say that a rape of an attractive woman makes some kind of sense but a rape of an unattractive one doesn’t. As I’ve explained repeatedly, it’s exactly that dichotomy that, to me, reveals **Shodan** ’s attitude as being fucked up. Again: Objectively, I have no problem with “‘makes some kind of sense’ [in the sense of] ‘can figure out how someone with mental issues gets from Point A to Point B even though I’d never follow those steps myself.’” I think it’s absolutely possible to study, consider, and hopefully come to understand rape without ever condoning it, excusing it, or considering it remotely acceptable. It’s only when someone says that they understand the rape of an attractive woman but not of an unattractive one that my alarm bells go off: because that, to me, suggests that the person’s “understanding” of rape is necessarily rooted in the belief that rape happens when a man sees an attractive woman and just can’t control himself (i.e., rape happens not because the rapist is fucked up–in which case it can happen to both attractive and unattractice people–but because the victim in some way enticed the rapist, however unintentionally or unculpably). ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/134 "2011-01-14T18:54:38Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Ah, but I highly doubt that any criminal psychologist would say that a rape of an attractive woman makes some kind of sense but a rape of an unattractive one doesn’t. As I’ve explained repeatedly, it’s exactly that dichotomy that, to me, reveals **Shodan** ’s attitude as being fucked up. > > Again: Objectively, I have no problem with “‘makes some kind of sense’ [in the sense of] ‘can figure out how someone with mental issues gets from Point A to Point B even though I’d never follow those steps myself.’” I think it’s absolutely possible to study, consider, and hopefully come to understand rape without ever condoning it, excusing it, or considering it remotely acceptable. > > It’s only when someone says that they understand the rape of an attractive woman but not of an unattractive one that my alarm bells go off: because that, to me, suggests that the person’s “understanding” of rape is necessarily rooted in the belief that rape happens when a man sees an attractive woman and just can’t control himself (i.e., rape happens not because the rapist is fucked up–in which case it can happen to both attractive and unattractice people–but because the victim in some way enticed the rapist, however unintentionally or unculpably). I think I understand what you’re saying to a point, but I still can’t follow the leap I feel you’re making in the end. I think what I’m about to say is going to be repetitive, so I’ll put it out there again and we can agree to disagree. I would think that in any rape, _some type_ of attraction is a motive (be it attraction to physical beauty, or to having power over another person, or to violating laws and/or social customs, etc), and that mental illness (through lack of empathy or a desire to harm someone else) is the key. I certainly don’t think (and my limited exposure doesn’t give me reason to think that anyone else in this thread thinks) that the victim is in any way at fault for someone’s mental illness or the results of that person’s actions. But when I look at the list of factors that I wrote above, there is only one thing on that list that I can relate to in any way whatsoever: attraction to beauty. Acknowledging that there is one recognizable factor in a whole host of factors that might lead someone to commit a rape doesn’t in ANY way lead me to excuse the behavior of a rapist or to misplace blame on a victim. Lacking even physical attraction as a motivating factor for a rapist makes a difficult-to-understand crime that much more incomprehensible. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/135 "2011-01-14T18:55:14Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 1.) What do I think what’s about, exactly? I’m waiting with bated breath here to discover my own opinion. The \*what \*is the disconnect **Strassia** referred to. > [@](#): > > 2.) I don’t know how many more times I can explicitly say that I don’t think \*\*Shodan \*\*is saying rape is acceptable. Are you illiterate or just skipping everything I write? How about explicitly saying _once_ that **Shodan** doesn’t think rape is acceptable, and we could go from there? Here’s one thing you’ve said: > [@](#): > > Oh, you mean the part where he said “lol j/k”? The part I quoted was the only relevant part: Where Shodan admitted what a truly disgusting waste of biomass he is, by conceding that **he can actually see someone’s physical attractiveness as an excuse to commit one of the most horribly abusive acts possible against them.** (emphasis added) ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/136 "2011-01-14T21:22:36Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > But when I look at the list of factors that I wrote above, there is only one thing on that list that I can relate to in any way whatsoever: attraction to beauty. Acknowledging that there is one recognizable factor in a whole host of factors that might lead someone to commit a rape doesn’t in ANY way lead me to excuse the behavior of a rapist or to misplace blame on a victim. Lacking even physical attraction as a motivating factor for a rapist makes a difficult-to-understand crime that much more incomprehensible. This is where it breaks down for me. I can’t ever imagine a sane, healthy person looking at someone they’re attracted to and thinking, “I am going to have sex with that person whether or not they’re interested.” Therefore, ISTM that all rape must be equally comprehensible (with the possibility that you understand it because you’re a creeper or that you understand it in an objective way without agreeing with it or relating to it) or equally incomprehensible (you have no desire to explore at all why someone would commit such a terrible act). For someone to end up in the middle, I simply cannot see as anything but an indication of something really fucked up happening in the back of that person’s head. > [@bup](#): > > The \*what \*is the disconnect **Strassia** referred to. So you think that I think that the motivation for all rapes is sex? Or you think that I think that the motivation for all rapes is power? Either guess would be wrong. > [@](#): > > How about explicitly saying _once_ that **Shodan** doesn’t think rape is acceptable, and we could go from there? Here’s one thing you’ve said My apologies if my intent wasn’t clear. Here are examples of other times I’ve clarified my point: > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Not that he’d ever \*do \*it [rape someone], but he \*understands \*it. […] I’m not saying he deserves to be locked up or beaten to death or whatever–simply that he’s a pitiful excuse for a human being. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh, certainly, it was clear. And nowhere am I claiming that \*\*Shodan \*\*is or ever will be a rapist. […] \*\*Shodan \*\*as good as stood up on a fucking soapbox and said that rape happens because women are pretty and men can’t help themselves, because that’s the kind of rape that “makes sense” to him. […] Implicit in his statement is the suggestion that there was some kind of justification, however twisted; that the attractiveness of the woman is on some level a factor in whether or not her rapist will cross the line into nonconsensual sex, where if she’d been less attractive, that would have somehow decreased his motivation. My intention was this: I am not disgusted by \*\*Shodan \*\*because I think that he’s saying that rape is a-ok if the chick is a hottie (I don’t). I find him loathsome because the fact that he can understand raping an attractive woman but not an unattractive woman to me suggests that he is _fucked in the head_. Consider if someone made the following statement: “I can see, on some level, the desire to beat to death a gay man who made a pass at you. But not a gay man who was minding his own business.” Would you also consider that to be acceptable? Why or why not? ---
**Author:** ![Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fake_Tales_of_San_Francisco)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/137 "2011-01-15T02:07:07Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > “I can see, on some level, the desire to beat to death a gay man who made a pass at you. But not a gay man who was minding his own business.” > > Would you also consider that to be acceptable? Why or why not? I think you’ve worded this analogy badly. Shodan didn’t say he could ‘see the desire’ to rape an attractive woman. He doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would see that desire. What he says is that he understands, because I assume he has biological urges like the rest of us, the desire. He is aloof from that, but he can see that if someone has a strong attraction to someone and that person is devoid of all decency, logic, and is essentially a monster, that such a person might rape someone. What these men did in the article linked to in the OP is so far removed from normal sexual urges that it isn’t possible to comprehend what they did. Now, when I first read Shodan’s post, I thought ‘Yeah, I agree, but uhh…that’s not something you actually say, and doesn’t really need pointing out’. It is a very uncomfortable post to read, which is probably why you have a big problem with it. I was also uncomfortable with the idea that disabled people aren’t beautiful. I think that’s my only true issue with his post. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/138 "2011-01-15T02:25:15Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Consider if someone made the following statement: > > “I can see, on some level, the desire to beat to death a gay man who made a pass at you. But not a gay man who was minding his own business.” > > Would you also consider that to be acceptable? Why not? Homosexuality has little to do with understanding it; women express irritation at unwanted passes from men all the time. And probably more than a few people have idly wished for something fatal to happen to the man in question. So yes; it’s a inadvertent provocation of sorts - a stupid provocation to get murderously angry over, but at least I can understand the impulse in the abstract even if it’s on the level of someone murdering you because they think you have an irritating voice. Attacking someone who comes up to you and irritates you is just an exaggerated version of normal human impulses and something I find easy to understand in the abstract, if not condone. Attacking someone who hasn’t interacted with you in any way is another matter. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/139 "2011-01-17T21:06:45Z")
> [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](#): > > I think you’ve worded this analogy badly. > > Shodan didn’t say he could ‘see the desire’ to rape an attractive woman. He doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would see that desire. Your entire post is negated by your hilarious inability to fucking read. > [@Shodan](#): > > I can see, on some level, the desire to rape a good-looking woman. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750/140 "2011-01-17T21:19:12Z")
I think that once you’ve read this: > [@Shodan](#): > > It’s one of those crimes that’s hard to empathize with, to put it that way. > > I can see, on some level, the desire to rape a good-looking woman. But this? Masturbation or a blow-up doll would be better. And if it’s the desire to dominate, how satisfying can it be to dominate someone in a care facility? And get this interpretation from it: > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh, you mean the part where he said “lol j/k”? The part I quoted was the only relevant part: Where Shodan admitted what a truly disgusting waste of biomass he is, by conceding that he can actually see someone’s physical attractiveness as an excuse to commit one of the most horribly abusive acts possible against them. Thumbs up, buddy–stay classy. Tune in next week, where \*\*Shodan \*\*enlightens us on how he sometimes gets why the KKK lynches niggers, especially when the neighbor kids play their rap music so damned loud. Then you’ve lost any right to say something like this to another person: > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Your entire post is negated by your hilarious inability to fucking read. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-at-least-eight-men-have-sexually-assaulted-at-least-ten-developmentally-disabled-women/566750.md?page=8)