# So bad it's good movies (It's been a while)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 7, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300 "2013-03-07T17:11:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/21 "2013-03-07T20:20:36Z")

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**[Unknown World](http://archive.org/details/UnknownWorld)**. I once had a person in hysterics when I described it as “like **The Core** , only with worse science.”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/22 "2013-03-07T20:25:45Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> I always thought that a pretty decent franchise could be managed with Doc Savage, with the steampunk fad that has been going on for a few years. Perhaps something for cable, the books themselves were what, 85 pages in reprint? That is [I seem to remember] roughly how much book to script a 90 minute movie tended to be. Of course that is IF the production company can be in control enough to have good screen adaptations, casting, sets/props and special effects. And if the cable company could NOT fuck it up by demanding stupid changes. They should not camp it up, internally Doc Savage took itself seriously.
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> Not sure who I would cast for the main characters, but Pat Savage should never ever fucking be Angelina Jolie…and Brandan Frazer nor the Rock should not be Doc…I think a cast of unknowns would be pretty much the best. [And if Tim Burton and Johnny Depp come anywhere near the set, have an explosives accident and take them out.]

Either one of the guys who are currently playing Thor or Cap would be OK. The guy who plays Wolverine would be great as Monk.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/23 "2013-03-07T20:29:57Z")

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> [@NitroPress](#):
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> The book was one of Crichton’s better ones. The movie was just… so… unbelievably… fracking… awful.

The movie and the book were both sorta dumb and sorta entertaining, just in different ways.

A laser is cooler than a recording that says “gorillas go away” any day of the week.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/24 "2013-03-08T22:42:29Z")

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For years, it was _The Trial of Billy Jack_, but I think that was supplanted by the Lifetime channel’s _Cyber Seduction_, a drama ripped from today’s headlines about the alarming tragedy of Internet pornography! It’s probably easily available on the Internet, if you think you can resist the siren song of the temptations it presents.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/25 "2013-03-08T22:57:05Z")

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any of the twilight movies. they’ve been all over cable lately and i can’t stop watching. they’re so wonderfully bad.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/26 "2013-03-09T00:38:35Z")

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I’m giving you a choice: either put on these glasses or start eatin’ that trash can.

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**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/27 "2013-03-09T00:47:59Z")

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I came here to wear glasses and eat trash cans, and I’m all out of trash cans.  
🙂

My entry:

“[The land that time forgot](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073260/)”

plus the sequel:  
[The People that Time Forgot](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076535/)

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/28 "2013-03-09T00:51:29Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> The movie and the book were both sorta dumb and sorta entertaining, just in different ways.

I said, it was one of Crichton’s better ones. That doesn’t preclude its being dumb and entertaining. 🙂

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> A laser is cooler than a recording that says “gorillas go away” any day of the week.

And a cute blonde chick shooting down a satellite, from the ground, with a hand-held laser, is just James Bond cool, right?

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**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/29 "2013-03-09T00:55:07Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> I love this movie, _especially_ Mick Jagger’s terrible acting.

Oor-roight, mee-oove ee-art!

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/30 "2013-03-09T05:24:48Z")

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> [@NitroPress](#):
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> Not sure if _Big Trouble in Little China_ qualifies as bad, but it sure has its moments. LIke, the least believable investigative journalist in film history.

Disqualified. It KNEW it was bad. It was intentionally bad and reveled in it. Great movie, and very quotable.

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**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/31 "2013-03-09T18:12:37Z")

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[_Traxx_](http://m.youtube.com/?reason=8&rdm=3866#/watch?v=stnt_xf1YHE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dstnt_xf1YHE). “Be good, be gone, or be dead.”

It’s cheesy, oh my {[non]deity/ies}, is it cheesy. But I loved it when I first saw it on cable in the '80s and I still love it today.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/32 "2013-03-09T18:30:22Z")

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Battlefield Earth should have been a comedy spoofing scifi tropes and so forth, but it wasn’t. It’s still very funny, though.

All Twilight Rifftrax’s are hilarious. The second one is almost intentionally comedic(the dude directed American Pie).

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/33 "2013-03-09T18:55:45Z")

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[Beyond the Valley of the Dolls](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065466/?ref_=sr_1) – Josie & the Pussycats (or live-action simulacrum band) drop acid, go crazy at orgies, get sapphic, and basically get into all kinds of wild early-70s countercultural hijinks.  
Very eerie coindicence though -

There’s a character who is clearly a parody of Phil Spector who goes on a murderous shooting rampage at his fabulous LA beach estate, and shoots a nublie starlet in the face - exactly like the real Phil Spector would do three decades later.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/34 "2013-03-09T19:00:19Z")

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> [@Don\_Draper](#):
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> [Beyond the Valley of the Dolls](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065466/?ref_=sr_1) – Josie & the Pussycats (or live-action simulacrum band) drop acid, go crazy at orgies, get sapphic, and basically get into all kinds of wild early-70s countercultural hijinks.

And, in a famous case of the pot calling the kettle black, just in case anyone didn’t know, take a gander at [the writer](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001170/).

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/35 "2013-03-09T21:37:28Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Two spoof movies which _aren’t_ bad are hilarious, and worth seeing:
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> \*\* The Lost Skeleton of Cadavera\*\* and **The Lost Skeleton Returns Again** spoof cheap 1950s horror-shlock and slightly-later 1960s horror-sf schlock. Highly recommended.

I recommend watching these, particular the first one, in conjuction with _Plan 9 From Outer Space_–it makes you appreciate what a wonderful ear for old fashioned, bad-movie dialog writer/director Larry Blamire has.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/36 "2013-03-09T21:41:36Z")

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**Zero Hour** was so bad they made a remake of of it that is one of the comedy greats. **Airplane**.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/37 "2013-03-09T21:44:31Z")

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They Live!

Plot that made utterly no sense and acting that was even worse(seriously who thought having Rowdy Roddy Piper as the hero was a good idea) but some great visual moments and anyone who didn’t cheer at the line, “I’m hear to chew bubblegum and kick ass and I’m all out of bubblegum” lacks a soul.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/38 "2013-03-09T21:48:07Z")

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Oh, I totally forgot Dead Heat!

[http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead\_Heat\_(1988\_film)](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Heat_(1988_film))

Horrible movie, but a blast to watch.

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**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/39 "2013-03-09T23:32:44Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> **Congo**. It’s the best movie ever made about shooting evil gorillas with a homemade laser.

> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> “Red Dawn” (1984) (Haven’t seen the remake.)

> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I strenuously object. **Tremors** is most definitely NOT a Bad Movie.
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> Unless your definition of “bad movie” is different from mine. _Tremors_ is a pretty nifty little sf/horror film.

I strongly concur with these opinions.

Tremors was a movie that did everything right. You could use Tremors in a film class as an example of how to make a good movie.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-bad-its-good-movies-its-been-a-while/652300/40 "2013-03-09T23:50:09Z")

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Not sure they’d really go all the way around from Bad to Good, but two little films I like;

_ **Cast a Deadly Spell** _ Fred Ward, Clancy Brown, David Warner. I love when Clancy’s dim buld character is asked why he’s helping the bad guy (Warner) and he just smiles and says “I get to be King of the World”. Then Warner’s bad guy says “Yes, it will be a ruined, blasted world, but you’ll be the most important thing on it.” and Clancy keeps smiling, oblivious to what he’s just been told.

_ **Masters of Menace** _ Spectacularly bad, but lots of fun little scenes and cameos.

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