# So, Birmingham (England) is a Muslim City. Most stupid/crazy thing I've heard from Fox News.

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**Created:** [January 11, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575 "2015-01-11T22:25:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/1 "2015-01-11T22:25:08Z")

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[This ignorant chappy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwq8Bwr9wUg) is telling America that the British city of Birmingham is a no go area for non Muslims. Please tell me that no one will believe him.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/2 "2015-01-11T22:28:45Z")

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[Ignorant chappy apologizes.](https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/554398193866534912)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/3 "2015-01-11T22:30:53Z")

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[46% of Brummies self-identify as Christian as of 2011.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Birmingham)

I’m sure they’d be quite interested to know their hometown is a no-go area for them.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/4 "2015-01-11T22:32:00Z")

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Wow. I’ve always heard that Fox News is full of exaggerations and nonsense, but that has to be near the top of the lunacy chart.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/5 "2015-01-11T22:42:01Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Ignorant chappy apologizes.](https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/554398193866534912)

One notes he takes care to apologize and avow his mistake off the air. Because of course he does.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/6 "2015-01-11T22:44:51Z")

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What did the woman moderator say afterwards? Her face sort of crinkles up at the end like she’s listening to a crazy person. The video cuts off right at the end. I’d be curious if she had any response at all.

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**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/7 "2015-01-11T23:21:01Z")

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It’s far worse than that, it’s full of Brummies.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/8 "2015-01-12T00:02:19Z")

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I caught a bit of Faux News this afternoon, and the commentator, whom I don’t know, was running down the US Gov(read Obama). Why?

Well, you may have seen a picture of the march andmass rally in Paris, at which many international figures, heads of state, and so on, are seen with linked arms, marching in front of the crowd. Representing the USA was the US ambassador to France, sorry, can’t remember her name.

The commentator didn’t think the ambassador was good enough, of high enough rank. He said other nations was represented by prime ministers and heads of state. _“What does that say about the US when all we do is have an ambassador?”_ he exclaimed.

Sheesh, if the Prez had shown up the same guy would probably have criticized him for trying to get his face on TV, or something like that.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/9 "2015-01-12T01:21:57Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I caught a bit of Faux News this afternoon, and the commentator, whom I don’t know, was running down the US Gov(read Obama). Why?
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> Well, you may have seen a picture of the march andmass rally in Paris, at which many international figures, heads of state, and so on, are seen with linked arms, marching in front of the crowd. Representing the USA was the US ambassador to France, sorry, can’t remember her name.
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> The commentator didn’t think the ambassador was good enough, of high enough rank. He said other nations was represented by prime ministers and heads of state. _“What does that say about the US when all we do is have an ambassador?”_ he exclaimed.
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> Sheesh, if the Prez had shown up the same guy would probably have criticized him for trying to get his face on TV, or something like that.

I’m sure the problem was that Obama couldn’t be seen actively protesting against Islam because he’d be considered an apostate (you know he’s a secret Muslim, right?). /wingnut

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/10 "2015-01-12T01:52:45Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> The commentator didn’t think the ambassador was good enough, of high enough rank. He said other nations was represented by prime ministers and heads of state. _“What does that say about the US when all we do is have an ambassador?”_ he exclaimed.

It means travel is a little more difficult. I doubt if the list of heads of state was complete, but I didn’t see any from North or South America, nor did I see any from Australia or New Zealand or eastern Asia or Southern Africa. I saw heads of state listed that are more or less local.

Frankly, I tend to agree that if he had dropped everything and gone on a supersonic Air Force jet, the criticism would have been, “Doesn’t he have more important things to do?”

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/11 "2015-01-12T01:56:19Z")

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Oh, and it’s not just Fox. According to some yammerer on [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/11/politics/obama-kerry-paris/index.html), ‘France is the United States’ “deepest ideological ally,” ’

Freedom fries, anyone?

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/12 "2015-01-12T02:50:52Z")

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President Obama should have gone to France and locked arms with the European heads of state.

If nothing else, it will engender good will toward our closest ideological allies.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/13 "2015-01-12T03:53:53Z")

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Nah, they’d just gripe about him upstaging them.

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**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/14 "2015-01-12T03:57:48Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> It’s far worse than that, it’s full of Brummies.

Boom!BOOM!

Treat yourself to a nice kipper tie.

/Boom!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/15 "2015-01-12T09:20:16Z")

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If they said that about Birmingham, it’s a good thing they haven’t heard about Luton. Taliban Central, it is. 🙂

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/16 "2015-01-12T11:45:05Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> It’s far worse than that, it’s full of Brummies.

Heheheh! On the plus side, it has a Five Guys. We often find excuses to visit the Bullring (a large shopping mall) but really we just want tasty tasty burgers. 😃

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**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/17 "2015-01-12T11:54:09Z")

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Some of the local reaction is amusing. Brummie Muslims tweeting #illridewithyou, etc.

> **[Fox News man is 'idiot' for Birmingham Muslim comments – David Cameron](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/fox-news-expert-ridiculed-over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims)**
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> ‘I choked on my porridge,’ British prime minister says in response to Steven Emerson’s claim that Birmingham is a ‘totally Muslim city’

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/18 "2015-01-12T12:13:50Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> President Obama should have gone to France and locked arms with the European heads of state.
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> If nothing else, it will engender good will toward our closest ideological allies.

I can imagine what you would have said if he _had_ done such a thing, since your mindset is that Obama is automatically wrong, no matter what action he takes. How many different threads are you going to push this latest Foxpinion in, by the way?

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/19 "2015-01-12T12:33:13Z")

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Paraphrasing from the twitter response: “I hope he next apologizes for accusing Birmingham of being beautiful.”

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/20 "2015-01-12T13:23:49Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> What did the woman moderator say afterwards? Her face sort of crinkles up at the end like she’s listening to a crazy person.

That’s Jeanine Pirro. Her face pretty much does that a regular as a metronome, regardless of external stimuli.

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