# So, Birmingham (England) is a Muslim City. Most stupid/crazy thing I've heard from Fox News. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575 "2015-01-11T22:25:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/21 "2015-01-12T14:50:50Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > That’s Jeanine Pirro. Her face pretty much does that a regular as a metronome, regardless of external stimuli. Yeah, it’s hard to believe that this is somehow beyond “Judge” Jeanine’s pale. I don’t think she even has a pale. ---
**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/22 "2015-01-12T15:14:27Z")
How does this actually work in the US … presumably he isn’t so stupid as to think what he said was accurate - it makes no sense and he must have realised that at the time, if not before. So presumably it was just another ‘foxfact’ that they thought could be espoused to their particular audience without anyone pulling them up over it? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/23 "2015-01-12T16:02:23Z")
> [@BOOM](#): > > How does this actually work in the US … presumably he isn’t so stupid as to think what he said was accurate - it makes no sense and he must have realised that at the time, if not before. There’s every chance he had no idea that Birmingham is [del]a totally normal place[/del] not a Muslim enclave where the Armies of the Prophet gun down any _kafir_ fool enough to show his face. I mean, it’s true, isn’t it? I grew up in Edgbaston but I had to flee to Florida because [del]the weather is nicer[/del] I was terrified of the approaching Muslim hordes. 😃 In all seriousness, most Americans would probably be surprised to find out there’s a Birmingham in England too (we have [our own](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama), which is _even worse_), unless they’re Judas Priest fans, or maybe once owned a Triumph or something. It won’t even make _The Daily Show_, I expect. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/24 "2015-01-12T16:50:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [Ignorant chappy apologizes.](https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/554398193866534912) Hmmmmmm. He may well be tossed off Fox News for this. Everyone knows that when called out on an obvious lie, the strategy is to double down and make the lie even bigger. He’ll have a dressing down from the network I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/25 "2015-01-12T16:52:23Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The commentator didn’t think the ambassador was good enough, of high enough rank. He said other nations was represented by prime ministers and heads of state. _“What does that say about the US when all we do is have an ambassador?”_ he exclaimed. The Canadian PM was not there. I don’t think there was enough time to arrange travel. ---
**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/26 "2015-01-12T16:53:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Birmingham in England too (we have [our own](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama), which is _even worse_), unless they’re Judas Priest fans, or maybe once owned a Triumph or something. > > It won’t even make _The Daily Show_, I expect. Two words to make Birmingham become real for Americans: Ozzy Osbourne 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/27 "2015-01-12T17:22:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In all seriousness, most Americans would probably be surprised to find out there’s a Birmingham in England too (we have [our own](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama), which is _even worse_), unless they’re Judas Priest fans, or maybe once owned a Triumph or something Not only that, but that it’s the second largest city in the UK. I will admit, as a 20 year old, I had no idea about Birmingham until I flew there. I knew lots of English cities, but somehow Birmingham completely eluded my radar. (And it’s even in the lyrics to the Smiths’s “Panic,” a band I had been listening to a lot at the time.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/28 "2015-01-12T17:45:09Z")
> [@BOOM](#): > > Two words to make Birmingham become real for Americans: Ozzy Osbourne 😉 Nobody in America can understand anything Ozzy is saying. I speak fluent Brummie (“er-um’s godda foonny babby, eyah?”) and can’t understand him. ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/29 "2015-01-12T18:04:08Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Not only that, but that it’s the second largest city in the UK. I will admit, as a 20 year old, I had no idea about Birmingham until I flew there. It’s not a particularly historical city, like smaller places that get all the foreign press like York or Oxford. There is history there, of course, but it actually tends to get split down into the local areas - the Stoke potteries, the “black country” stuff. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/30 "2015-01-12T18:41:16Z")
I heard that the key piece of evidence that Birming is Muslim is the weather: it is either Sunni or Shi’ite. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/31 "2015-01-12T18:43:30Z")
What about the purported 750+ Islamic “no-go areas” in France that the RW is talking about this week? Are they for real? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/32 "2015-01-12T18:43:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I heard that the key piece of evidence that Birming is Muslim is the weather: it is either Sunni or Shi’ite. _golf clap_ ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/33 "2015-01-12T18:49:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What about the purported 750+ Islamic “no-go areas” in France that the RW is talking about this week? Are they for real? If you can point to a list of these purported areas that include any suburbs of Paris, let me know. I’ve traveled these areas by foot and public transport with expensive cameras in hand for years and never had the slightest problem. Granted, there are plenty of places one would probably not want to be out by oneself late at night, but that’s because of gang action, not particularly because they might be muslim-majority. ---
**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/34 "2015-01-12T19:36:52Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What about the purported 750+ Islamic “no-go areas” in France that the RW is talking about this week? Are they for real? LOL. I sense a Death Panel approaching from the East … ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/35 "2015-01-12T20:09:14Z")
> [@BOOM](#): > > How does this actually work in the US … presumably he isn’t so stupid as to think what he said was accurate - it makes no sense and he must have realised that at the time, if not before. > > So presumably it was just another ‘foxfact’ that they thought could be espoused to their particular audience without anyone pulling them up over it? He probably read it on Drudge, or Breitbart, or the Time Cube. I’m confident that when he said it, he believed it, because he would believe anything from a right-wing source before some crazy left-wing publication like the Post or the Times. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/36 "2015-01-12T20:34:22Z")
Look at a quote from his apology “for having made this comment about the beautiful city of Birmingham”. The mans a bigger idiot than I thought - that is not any sort of description to give to Birmingham ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/37 "2015-01-12T20:43:44Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Wow. I’ve always heard that Fox News is full of exaggerations and nonsense, but that has to be near the top of the lunacy chart. I don’t think it quite tops the time they claimed that, if Stephen Hawking had been born in the UK, he’d never have survived with ALS as long as he has due to the terrible nature of British healthcare. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/38 "2015-01-12T21:48:31Z")
> [@BOOM](#): > > How does this actually work in the US … presumably he isn’t so stupid as to think what he said was accurate - it makes no sense and he must have realised that at the time, if not before. > > So presumably it was just another ‘foxfact’ that they thought could be espoused to their particular audience without anyone pulling them up over it? Most likely the plan was to spout off with the “Foxfact”, the Fox viewership eats it up, then he releases the (probably) pre-written apology if the rest of the world notices and raises a stink. The Fox viewership ignores said apology, and in future years will now continually regurgitate the “fact” that Birmingham is a Muslim city living under the iron fist of Sharia law and harboring terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/39 "2015-01-12T21:58:13Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Most likely the plan was to spout off with the “Foxfact”, the Fox viewership eats it up, then he releases the (probably) pre-written apology if the rest of the world notices and raises a stink. The Fox viewership ignores said apology, and in future years will now continually regurgitate the “fact” that Birmingham is a Muslim city living under the iron fist of Sharia law and harboring terrorists. This. Exactly this. I’m absolutely certain that sometime in the next 18 months my father, or my oldest and dearest friend, will toss out “…well what about Birmingham? It’s 100% Muslim and non-Muslims can’t even go there!”. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575/40 "2015-01-12T22:39:58Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I don’t think it quite tops the time they claimed that, if Stephen Hawking had been born in the UK, he’d never have survived with ALS as long as he has due to the terrible nature of British healthcare. That was the _Investors’ Business Daily_ or somesuch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-birmingham-england-is-a-muslim-city-most-stupid-crazy-thing-ive-heard-from-fox-news/709575.md?page=3)