# So, black hole is racist?.... Really?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358 "2008-07-22T12:54:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/61 "2008-07-24T14:06:29Z")

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I find it curious that anyone could be ignorant of the astronomical term. Black holes have figured in science fiction stories and movies, including the extremely crappy Disney flick \*\*The Black Hole \*\* [1979]\*, starring Maximillien Schell.

Usually when scientific phenomena get extremely crappy Disney flicks named after them, they can be said to have graduated from the realm of esoteric scientific knowledge to that of common knowledge.

- Which proved to be something of a career black hole for many involved, save composer John Barry, who managed to write a pretty decent orchestral score for it.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/62 "2008-07-24T15:10:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Giles]  
This page gives a street address, phone number and fax number for him.

This site given a mailing address for the John Wiley Price Campaign, in case you want to send money to help support him in the ceaseless battle against racism.  
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Quoting from [the Pit rules:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=365973)

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> Do not post contact information (email, phone, mailing address, etc.) to facilitate a campaign for/against a person, group, or issue.
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> We don’t want the board used to hassle people or groups of people. You can urge people to write their Congressperson or other political leaders, but let people find the contact information themselves. Don’t post it here.

This is not a formal warning, but please don’t do this. Yes, the guy is a total idiot - or else just one of those aggressively outraged people who is too scared or self-important to back down when he is flagrantly wrong, but the rules don’t allow this.  
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Unless, of course, Wiley actually said “Nappy headed black hole.”

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/63 "2008-07-24T15:17:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
This is not a formal warning, but please don’t do this.  
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My apologies. I hadn’t thought of my reply as encouraging a campaign against the guy, but was responding to an earlier message saying they couldn’t find contact information. However, it was against the rule cited, and I shouldn’t have done it.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/64 "2008-07-24T17:31:43Z")

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I would not start (or participate in a campaign).

However.

I would laugh until coffee started spurting from multiple holes if the folks in question all started receiving bargain bin copies of this (which I saw in the theater as a tyke):

> **[The Black Hole (1979) ⭐ 5.9 | Action, Sci-Fi](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078869/)**
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> 1h 38m | PG

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/65 "2008-07-24T17:35:39Z")

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I would not contribute to such a campaign either. I am too niggardly.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/66 "2008-07-24T18:35:58Z")

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I wish I could believe that the three of them are really good beer drinking buddies having a good old time playing dozens with one another. But it happened in Texas so I can’t.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/67 "2008-07-24T21:41:21Z")

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That should be “nappy-headed hole”. :eek:

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/68 "2008-07-25T20:06:55Z")

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Well, an African-American woman who used to work for me objected when I said something was a black hole. She told me the black hole was under her desk.

Yes, this really happened.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/69 "2008-07-25T20:25:00Z")

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Having grown up watching John Wiley Price make an ass of himself, this isn’t suprising.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-black-hole-is-racist-really/457358/70 "2008-07-26T02:07:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I wonder if the judge really thought Price has a legitimate point, or if his thinking was more along the line of, “Just apologize to him so he’ll shut up and we can move along.”  
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According to the blog interview posted by … **lieu** , the first guy said “How about a pink hole?” and that was when the judge demanded the apology. Maybe he interpreted this as some kind of inappropriate reference to an orifice.

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