# So... Darth Vader will return in Ep. VII. How d'ya think they'll do it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822 "2012-11-12T20:55:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/81 "2012-11-15T19:17:58Z")
> [@danman](#): > > the real question is who cares! +1 ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/82 "2012-11-15T19:35:28Z")
> [@Mrs.Cake](#): > > No wait, Luke wakes up from a fever dream at the end of “Empire” and finds Episode 6 was all happening in his brain while under medication. And he turns to his wife, the Force ghost of Suzanne Pleshette. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/83 "2012-11-15T19:54:01Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > And he turns to his wife, the Force ghost of Suzanne Pleshette. “A _blonde_?” ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/84 "2012-11-15T23:21:08Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Leia and Han could always have kids. Twins even. They’d be adults by now, about the same age as Anakin. With Han as their father, and with Uncle Luke training him as a Jedi, the boy might get a little cocky with a chip on his shoulder Wait. Did you make that up wholesale or have you read [the EU](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacen_Solo)? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/85 "2012-11-16T01:26:55Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Wait. Did you make that up wholesale or have you read [the EU](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacen_Solo)? Wholesale. Is that seriously how it went? ETA: yeah, never even heard of Jacen Solo. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/86 "2012-11-16T01:34:00Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > Assume that in order to keep balance within the force, each person must have an opposite. > > Yoda tends to be a “Force Shaman”, and until now, we have no idea who his opposite is. > > This entity resurrects the Emperor and Darth in an attempt to take one last swipe at the Alliance. > > Plausible? Not to a die hard fan who refuses to believe any Star Wars movies exists after V, or before IV. If every Jedi master had to have an opposite, I’d certainly say Yoda’s was Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/87 "2012-11-16T03:31:46Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > Which he found conveniently nearby in the person of that janitor…! Roger Wilco??? ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/88 "2012-11-16T05:07:08Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > The fastest way from Point A to Point B is make him a clone. Another thought would be for someone other than Anakin to take up the Darth Vader mantle. Perhaps the original Vader’s grandson is seduced by the Dark Side and goes on an evil quest to become the next Vader. However, a clone wouldn’t need the biosuit that Vader wears. Vader Prime wears it because of the injuries he sustained in his duel with Obi-Wan in Ep. 3. A newborn baby cloned from his DNA wouldn’t be born crippled unless his DNA was altered or something. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/89 "2012-11-16T05:23:34Z")
Why not just have Luke turn to the dark side and pick up where dad left off? That seems to me to be the easiest story to write. He uses the Vader costume as more of a utility than a necessity. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/90 "2012-11-16T20:13:10Z")
> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#): > > Why not just have Luke turn to the dark side and pick up where dad left off? That seems to me to be the easiest story to write. He uses the Vader costume as more of a utility than a necessity. Because for him to turn, it’d have to be an even greater temptation than everything he fought against in the first three films. It would totally undermine the trilogy. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/91 "2012-11-16T20:22:28Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Like this?](http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/151/4/a/Darth_Jar_Jar_by_pcsamurai.jpg) That is truly a disturbing image. My dreams will be haunted for countless days now, **Darth Miller**! \ ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/92 "2012-11-16T22:16:15Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Like this?](http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/151/4/a/Darth_Jar_Jar_by_pcsamurai.jpg) Darth Messa. Did we ever find out what Jar Jar’s ultimate fate actually was? The last I saw of him, he was just kind standing there, feeling the audience hate him. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/93 "2012-11-16T22:36:36Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > If they retcon his death, the movie will become the most hated of them all…it was the ENTIRE point of the first six films. That’s Lucas’ evil plan; he figures that the new movies will suck so profoundly that everyone will finally stop giving him crap about Jar-Jar Binks. > [@cmyk](#): > > Everybody knows that Vader’s suit was imbued with Anakin’s Dark Side. When the Death Star 2.0 Beta blew up, his lava suit was impervious to the explosion, due to the Dark Side keeping it intact—found on Endor’s moon by Ewoks, smouldering and breathing laboriously. They scratched their hideiuos heads, said Ig chop, nub nub and tried to roast it over a spit. yet, although Anakin himself was incinerated, his Dark Side operates his suit, like an empty, jangly puppet that just walks around remote-choking Ewoks. Hey, _I’d_ watch that film. ---
**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822/94 "2012-11-16T22:45:59Z")
Luke or Leia’s kid returns to Dagobah to train and faces grandpa in the dark tree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-darth-vader-will-return-in-ep-vii-how-dya-think-theyll-do-it/640822.md?page=4)