# So FinnAgain level with me (EVE) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 22, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828 "2009-07-22T05:10:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/61 "2009-07-31T17:45:12Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > For instance my main, Teras Menac is KOS (kill on sight) in Amarr space. _sniffle_ I don’t want to kill you … though as an amarr, i admit that the missions I keep getting are having me kill lots of amarr … i feel so conflicted but i like the loot:D ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/62 "2009-07-31T18:39:41Z")
Looting in lo and null sec is incredibly lucrative, people leave T2 fitted ships unlooted all the time. I’ve found faction gear on wrecks just sitting at the gate. My Minmatar frigate alt is a blast to fly. I love playing with frigates in lo-sec. \*\*Aruvqan \*\* You’re sweet. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/63 "2009-07-31T21:12:22Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Looting in lo and null sec is incredibly lucrative, people leave T2 fitted ships unlooted all the time. I’ve found faction gear on wrecks just sitting at the gate. > > My Minmatar frigate alt is a blast to fly. I love playing with frigates in lo-sec. > > \*\*Aruvqan \*\* You’re sweet. 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/64 "2009-08-01T00:06:38Z")
I was under the impression that it doesn’t matter what race you are since one could learn to fly any ship in the game. I interpreted the whole race thing as something that really didn’t impact PVP unless you are flying a ship that just sucks for pvp. So I am a Caldari and just trained to fly a Rifter…can someone explaing why this is bad? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/65 "2009-08-01T00:09:49Z")
> [@ManiacMan](#): > > I was under the impression that it doesn’t matter what race you are since one could learn to fly any ship in the game. Correct. > [@ManiacMan](#): > > I interpreted the whole race thing as something that really didn’t impact PVP unless you are flying a ship that just sucks for pvp. Pretty much, but some people use “I’m race X” as shorthand for "I fly the ships of race X " > [@ManiacMan](#): > > So I am a Caldari and just trained to fly a Rifter…can someone explaing why this is bad? It’s not. Caldari sips are (generally) bad for PvE. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/66 "2009-08-01T02:00:40Z")
Bad for PVE? The Raven and the Drake are often cited as two of the best ships for PVE. Did you mean to say PVP? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/67 "2009-08-01T02:05:53Z")
Yah, my bad. They’re bad for P veeeeeeeeeeee Peeeeeeeeeeeeeee. For my money, too, I’d put the Domi or Ishtar far above the Raven/Drake. If for nothing else, the fact that they never need to put new ammo in and can, as a result, run missions/rats/whatever until the cows come home. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/68 "2009-08-01T02:16:54Z")
Yeah Domis are great for missions. Triple Active Armor tank Domi FTW. 😉 I just took a lolfit Executioner out to a mission for shits and giggles, damn did it fucking suck. I was pining for a Rifter. 😉 I would’ve done a Punisher but they didn’t have one where I was. 😉 It’s pretty, it’s fast but it’s tank sucks and so does its DPS. I had Advanced Weapon Upgrades 4 in there trying to complete my gunnery support to 4 or better, but damn I want to fly some other races, so I am working on the other ships right now. I’ll get Amarr Cruiser up to 4 and see how I like a Prophecy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/69 "2009-08-01T02:18:20Z")
Which reminds me, one of the few things that the Ishkur is really, really good at is running LvL 1’s, specially those with size-limited acceleration gates. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/70 "2009-08-01T02:20:13Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Which reminds me, one of the few things that the Ishkur is really, really good at is running LvL 1’s, specially those with size-limited acceleration gates. Hi-sec plexes with size limits as well. You can AFK them in an Ishkur. Personally I like running L3s in them. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828/71 "2009-08-01T02:40:28Z")
Yup, Blaster/Rail fit Prophecy is going to be on my list soon. 😉 I threw it in Eve Mon and each race would require me precisely 1 week to get all the way up to Battleship 3. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-finnagain-level-with-me-eve/503828.md?page=3)