# So God is HATE? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 22, 2002, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235 "2002-05-22T03:27:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/1 "2002-05-22T03:27:21Z")
From [www.patriarch.com](http://www.patriarch.com) to [nogreaterjoy.org](http://nogreaterjoy.org), lately I’ve been seeing a lot of links to your really, REALLY extreme fundementalist mindsets. And it’s scaring the pants off me. I mean, [Patriarch.com](http://Patriarch.com) went so far as to say, God does NOT love everyone Women are NEVER, EVER to contradict their husbands. EVER. The Catholic church may be the Beast George Bush is way too liberal People who ever post on a message board that the “Elders” don’t approve of are banned. [nogreaterjoy.org](http://nogreaterjoy.org) basically states If a parent does not physically discipline their children, they are not following the Bible God hates divorce more than he hates child molestation or spousal abuse Barbie is evil What the HELL? I mean, I grew up Catholic, as most of you know, and people think CATHOLICS are conservative! Yeesh! It’s downright freaking scary to see these people. ---
**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/2 "2002-05-22T03:35:52Z")
**Guinistasia**. this is why I no longer define myself as “conservative” and un-registered as a Republican last month. I tend to be generally conservative on a lot of things, but I’ve grown incredibly sick of the “I’m more \_\_\_\_\_ than you” mentality out there. So I am what I am, and call individual situations as I see them. If somebody wants to call me a liberal, fine by me. Looking at your links, though…people are funny, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/3 "2002-05-22T03:42:22Z")
Funny is one word for it. If I might, I’d make the humble suggestion–just one person’s opinion here–that you stay off their message boards, and should that be irresistable, please don’t bring back strays. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/4 "2002-05-22T04:02:01Z")
Of course! I only lurk at these-I have NO INTEREST in getting into it with these people. (But Cecil! He followed me home-can we keep him, huh?) Just kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/5 "2002-05-22T04:17:24Z")
Assholes like [Patriarch.com](http://Patriarch.com), et al, are the reason I _stay_ registered as a Republican. I don’t want _reactionary_ assholes hijacking a perfectly good concept: Conservatism. So many people have actually bought into the idea that “extremism to the right”=“conservative” that I’m afraid that the few of us left who actually _are_ conservative are fighting a rear-guard action. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/6 "2002-05-22T04:19:50Z")
Right with ya, Tranq. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/7 "2002-05-22T04:26:32Z")
I’m not associating these people with Republicans. With the Christian Taliban Party, perhaps… ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/8 "2002-05-22T05:33:51Z")
**Guin** - you really do put yourself in for it, don’t you? Talk about masochism! > [@](#): > > **From [Patriarch.com](http://Patriarch.com): "My son is working in another city. I am comfortable allowing him to make unsupervised decisions regarding friends, place of worship, and leisure activities. I would not be as comfortable with a daughter of the same age. God’s word indicates to me that regardless of her age, commitment to godliness, ability to discern good from evil, etc., that it is my responsibility to function as her authority until I turn that right, or burden, over to another."** Don’t let these assholes waste your time or distress you. Someone giving a sermon at school chapel once made the point that the nearer someone is to God - or the higher they are in a religion’s hierarchy - the bigger the victory for the devil if he sways them. Which is why I think the between religious fanaticism and pure evil is blurry and thin, if there at all. And the guys on this Patriarch site/most of these fundie church doctrine makers? Sin of pride for a start. The whole idea of indisputable spritual authority and infallibility of one human being over another is a satanic doctrine, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/9 "2002-05-22T05:49:32Z")
Time for a new Reformation? I’ll bring the marshmallows! ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/10 "2002-05-22T13:18:59Z")
Exactly what I hate about religion. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/11 "2002-05-22T13:33:50Z")
let me second **Drastic’s** suggestion - no more strays, I beg of you! Kooks like that do not make me fear conservatives, religions, etc, for I assume that they do **not** represent the majority. And I really don’t want to get into a ‘my lunatic fringe is not as crazy as your lunatic fringe’ fight w/anyone. that’s right, **anyone**. and that includes you, too **Fenris** 😉 (but then again, I was raised by some one who made sure each of his kids- at the time 12, 10 and 4- had a copy of _None Dare Call it Treason_ ) ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/12 "2002-05-22T15:25:51Z")
Just please don’t bring any of 'em over here, **Guin**. We got enough nutjobs as it is:) ---
**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/13 "2002-05-22T16:03:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **I mean, I grew up Catholic** Eeeeee-vil!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/14 "2002-05-22T16:08:17Z")
> [@](#): > > - from [Patriarch.com](http://Patriarch.com)\* > Christian Manhood (Men Only) > Discuss general issues related to Christian manhood, masculinity, fatherhood. > > Theology (Men Only) > > Doctrinal Issues (Men Only) > Discuss Bible doctrine, ask questions, but be kind! This section is for men only. Women are encourage to read the posts but are not allowed to post. > > Biblical Worldview (Men Only) > > Rebuilding Christian Culture (Men Only) > Applying the Christian faith to every sphere of life and every realm of study. I think some of the forums are very interesting…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JustPlainBryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@JustPlainBryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustPlainBryan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/15 "2002-05-22T16:22:49Z")
> [@](#): > > _From [nogreaterjoy.org](http://nogreaterjoy.org): “Man and Wife” series NGJ Volume 2_ > \*\*This little mother told of a lesson she learned early in marriage. They are both athletic and decided to take a cross-country bicycle trip for their honeymoon. I must admit, such a thought never occurred to me. She related how they immediately began arguing. The husband is very stubborn, especially when it comes to reading a map. He was always (according to her) taking the wrong road—with the utmost confidence. She would say, “No this is the right direction,” and so they would argue about it. No, it is no big deal to take the wrong road when driving; you can just go twenty miles down the road and then turn around. But if you are peddling up all the hills—well… > > She tells how she finally learned her role as helper. She decided that her husband couldn’t read a map half as good as she could, but if he read the map incorrectly and they went in a different direction than intended, then it was God’s will for her to joyously follow, lending all assistance. If he read the map incorrectly, then God would work it for their good. With that attitude, when she followed her husband, she always went in the right direction and always ended up where she ought to be—whether he did or not. They are growing. She is learning to be a good helper, and he is learning to be a more considerate leader.\*\* If this isn’t the most asinine thing I have ever read, I don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/16 "2002-05-22T17:08:33Z")
From [http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/newpage21.htm:](http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/newpage21.htm:) > [@](#): > > Now I am speaking to you, fathers. If you isolate yourself in a room and indulge in pornography, you are not sick; you are evil. You are having intercourse with a computer, or with the pages of a publication. In effect you are having an erotic experience with the editor—probably another man. While you are fanaticizing with that commercially produced image, know that there are thousands of others engaged in eroticism with the same image, at the same time as you. You are part of a disgusting group of perverts, all piled onto the same image together. And somewhere there is a sexually dysfunctional editor enjoying the extent of his erotic powers. Wow. All I can say is wow. This is some pretty twisted shit. I feel like I now have to look at porn just to clean my eyeballs. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/17 "2002-05-22T17:28:02Z")
Mom apron on. You know, I hate to rain on this parade, but it wasn’t all that long ago that we had postings from another group’s message board and SDMBers poked fun, laughed and all, then some decided to go over there and attempt to point out inconsistencies there and it all got pretty damned ugly. FWIW, I don’t think it’s productive to copy/paste segments of some other boards thoughts (yea, it’s public yaddy yaddy yadddy) for us to laugh at. Mom apron off. ---
**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/18 "2002-05-22T17:32:51Z")
[www.patriarch.com](http://www.patriarch.com) added to the ‘Entertainment’ section of my bookmarks. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/19 "2002-05-22T17:42:32Z")
The really, really, really, scary thing is that when I think of my daughter dating… …Well, I can kinda see the attraction. > [@](#): > > I am the man. I am always right, even when I’m not. You will listen to me in all things, because God said so, and if you don’t you’ll go straight to Hell. Kinda seductive. I’ll run it by the wife, and see what she thinks. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235/20 "2002-05-22T17:56:27Z")
> [@](#): > > You know, I hate to rain on this parade, but it wasn’t all that long ago that we had postings from another group’s message board and SDMBers poked fun, laughed and all, then some decided to go over there and attempt to point out inconsistencies there and it all got pretty damned ugly. > > FWIW, I don’t think it’s productive to copy/paste segments of some other boards thoughts (yea, it’s public yaddy yaddy yadddy) for us to laugh at. Well, yeah, **wring**. But strangely enough the results are not all negative. I totally upset the equilibrium of a fairly conservative poster over at the Pizza Parlor by remarking, tongue in cheek, after I’d been there for a while and even become a Moderator, that I was led there by **Satan** ic influence. ( **Navigator** had to explain what I meant.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-god-is-hate/110235.md?page=2)