# So he was convicted. Big honking deal **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 1, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368 "2024-06-01T03:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/181 "2024-06-02T20:06:26Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > I’m not: the OP has shown himself a bozo and we need not pay attention to him. I quit early on. 🙂 The OP is clearly biased toward something. I don’t know what nor do I give a shit. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/182 "2024-06-02T21:02:16Z")
The OP demands we pay attention to the turd he deliberately expelled directly into the punch bowl, and apparently we’re missing the point when we point out the shit and not the punch bowl. Or something like that. I fear that analogy, poor as it was, is still more coherent and rational than the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/183 "2024-06-02T21:02:47Z")
What a trooper! > **[After Verdict, Trump Revels in Embrace of His Most Avid Base: Male Fans](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/02/us/politics/donald-trump-ufc-newark-dana-white.html)** > > The former president’s appearance at a U.F.C. fight in Newark on Saturday night showcased his hypermasculine appeal, and his defiance. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/184 "2024-06-02T21:11:57Z")
Here is the list of [New York State Prisons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_state_prisons). Please tell me to which minimum security facility he’ll be sent. And if there is a “country-club” medium security prison, which one is it? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/185 "2024-06-02T21:27:11Z")
I’ve heard tell State prisons are the worst. Even city lock up might be better. Food will still be bad. Aunt Bea isn’t bringing dumplin’s and peach cobbler. It doesn’t matter he’s never gonna be locked up. OP, I know that bugs you. There’s not much we, as regular people can do about it. Gnashing your teeth and screaming at the clouds just makes you look like a foolish conspiracy theorist. This is where the aluminum foil hat business comes from. I don’t like people picking on you like that. I don’t like anyone treated ugly. Think about this, if you took your opening post and read it out loud to group of your neighbors or office associates, what do you think they would say? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/186 "2024-06-02T21:44:36Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > I’m not: the OP has shown himself a bozo and we need not pay attention to him. I know what you’re saying. But I paid particular attention to this trial, and thought that it was zipped up and packaged very nicely at the end. Then, the OP comes in and tells me that the trial was a farce! Holy shit, tell me, OP, what I missed. I must know. So I asked, and so far I haven’t been told jack diddly doodly about how the trial was a farce. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/187 "2024-06-02T21:50:11Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I asked, and so far I haven’t been told jack diddly doodly about how the trial was a farce. People are saying.. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/188 "2024-06-02T21:51:56Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Think about this, if you took your opening post and read it out loud to group of your neighbors or office associates, what do you think they would say? But he’s anonymous. So we have the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory to contend with. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/189 "2024-06-02T21:54:05Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > Here is the list of [New York State Prisons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_state_prisons) My BIL worked at several minimum, medium, and maximum security prisons in NY, and none of them are cushy. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/190 "2024-06-02T22:01:38Z")
I recently decided to watch the show _Suits_ for the first time on Netflix. It’s very entertaining and I see why it got all of the accolades it did during its run. Funny and interesting, with good stories and characters. But in one early episode there was a woman charged with insider trading that the protagonists were trying to get to turn herself in and agree with a plea deal, and insisted that she’d coast through a minimum security prison for 11 months, a comfortable stay at a country club place. Remember this is a fictional TV show telling an entertaining story. But this trope is so common people think it’s real. The _Straight Dope_ itself was created in part to dispel such myths, yet unfortunately we see it played out via willful ignorance on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/191 "2024-06-02T22:07:04Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > the OP comes in and tells me that the trial was a farce! it wasn’t a farce, of course, so who might say it was? other than a supporter of rump, I can’t think of anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/192 "2024-06-02T22:13:48Z")
> [@El\_DeLuxo](#): > > > [@Dissonance](#): > > > > Hey dumbass: your sarcasm and irony meters need adjustment. > > Sarcasm is just mockery, not a valid persuasive argument about anything Hey dumbass: 1. Learn to use the quote function properly. I had to add a hard return after the [/quote] to clean up your mess of an attempt at quoting. Which could, I suppose, technically be construed as a violation of the hard rule against modifying anything inside a quote from another poster, only it wasn’t a proper quote, it was a sloppy mess. 2. You posted a pile of horseshit in The Pit, and you’re surprised that you are treated with mockery? Learn where you are posting. 3. I actually know what I am talking about, unlike you. None of the FCIs you listed have a) anything like comfy, college dorm rooms and serve good, real food or b) any chance of TFG spending any time in them anyway. If you’d bothered to look up what the 'F" in FCI and FPC is, you’d have noticed it stands for _Federal_. Last I checked, the 34 felonies TFG was convicted of by the state of New York weren’t convictions by the Federal government. The reason I haven’t addressed your ‘discrepancy’ is that there is no discrepancy to address. You are completely lacking in any knowledge of your horseshit claims about comfy prisons with college dorm rooms and good real food. They don’t exist. I can’t address a discrepancy that exists entirely in your head; I can only mock you for believing it to be a discrepancy. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/193 "2024-06-02T22:20:56Z")
That was actually my first impression, that he was a right-winger trying to make liberals look bad. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/194 "2024-06-02T22:48:54Z")
it’s good people gave him the benefit of the doubt for awhile… ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/195 "2024-06-03T06:48:34Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > There already is: he is a _convicted felon_. For many, that’s good enough at this time; your milage obviously varies (Sorry in advance, but I just can’t type well when the keyboard covers up what I’m typing. This is also why I had to crudely paste the Salon link instead of gracefully embedding it in the text.) But even that may turn out to have been a mirage. There are potentially viable strategies by which Trump and his many ass-lickers in high places could get SCOTUS to void his conviction, for example as laid out here in this Salon article. > **["An open question": Experts say Trump may ask SCOTUS if states can enforce...](https://www.salon.com/2024/06/01/ive-never-seen-that-legal-scholars-say-has-opening-to-turn-to-for-help/)** > > There are multiple federal questions Trump could raise to get SCOTUS to intervene, UCLA Prof. Rick Hasen told Salon. The gist is that federal election conspiracy, or other violations alleged to have committed in the furtherance of of federal election law violations.may not be prosecutable on state courts. He might still be guilty of misdemeanors if this goes tgrough. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/196 "2024-06-03T07:20:17Z")
Not to hijack, but are you having a real issue with your keyboard or is that a joke I don’t understand? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/197 "2024-06-03T07:51:10Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > He might still be guilty of misdemeanors if this goes tgrough. No, the statute of limitations for those misdemeanors in New York had already passed (it’s only two years). He was successfully prosecuted because elevating them to felony charges stretched that to five years and the last check was cut in 2017, allowing the prosecuter to (just barely) scrape under the wire. If the elevation to felony charges is tossed, the whole case becomes moot. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/198 "2024-06-03T08:51:18Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Not to hijack, but are you having a real issue with your keyboard or is that a joke I don’t understand? I was being serious. Lately, when I post on Android I’ve noticed that if I type more than a few lines in a post, the space in which my typed content appears extends under the virtual keyboard, and it won’t scroll up to where I can see it. When I finally replaced my 2017 phone about a week ago, I thought that would fix the problem, but it didn’t. I’ll have to look and see if there’s a different skin that’ll work better. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/199 "2024-06-03T09:44:59Z")
> [@bump](#): > > At best, you’d see a judge being lenient with respect to _where_ he would be incarcerated, or maybe the judge would knock the sentence back if the jury over-penalized him. But that stuff’s got to be within the bounds of precedent and normal operation- the judge can’t realistically countermand a jury’s sentence from 5 years in prison to six months of probation without getting a LOT of scrutiny and possible disbarment and dismissal. This text contains two misunderstandings of how courts work. First, juries do not set sentences. Their only job is to come up with a verdict: guilty or not guilty. Once they’ve done that, their job is over. Second, the judge does not determine where a sentence is to be served. That’s done by the Department/Bureau/whatever of Corrections. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/200 "2024-06-03T16:22:39Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > Lately, when I post on Android I’ve noticed that if I type more than a few lines in a post, the space in which my typed content appears extends under the virtual keyboard, and it won’t scroll up to where I can see it. That has been happening lately on my iPhone as well. ☹ It’s still doable but I have to do some awkward scrolling to get to where I can see what I’m typing and at first I am typing blind. (Basically I find if you scroll up on the screen you’ll be able to see the field again, this only started happening within the past week.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368.md?page=11)