# So he was convicted. Big honking deal **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 1, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368 "2024-06-01T03:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/81 "2024-06-01T15:11:43Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Sure. But you know what I mean about “degrees of correlation”. Shady standard business practices are not sedition. [https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/22/trump-hush-money-trial-election-interference-00153561](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/22/trump-hush-money-trial-election-interference-00153561) > Prosecutors say Trump’s hush money was ‘election interference.’ Will jurors — and voters — believe it? IMHO Jurors did too, it is up to us to tell many voters on the fence to get it too. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/82 "2024-06-01T16:03:49Z")
If Trump is given a custodial sentence, it most likely would be measured in days or months and would be served at Rikers Island. But even in a hellhole like Rikers, he’d be separated and protected from the general population. It is funny to imagine him have to submit to the ol’ 'bend over and spread ‘em’ routine processing, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/83 "2024-06-01T16:09:47Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > It is funny to imagine him have to submit to the ol’ 'bend over and spread ‘em’ routine processing, though. They don’t pay the D.O.C. guards enough. Ewww… ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/84 "2024-06-01T16:34:00Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > It is funny to imagine him have to submit to the ol’ 'bend over and spread ‘em’ routine processing, though > [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > They don’t pay the D.O.C. guards enough That would be a story to tell the grandkids. Or maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/85 "2024-06-01T16:40:23Z")
_Orange Rotter and the Half-Ton Dingleberry_. A Kid’s story. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/86 "2024-06-01T16:42:40Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I’m curious about the OP. Why post this? Some people see a kid happily eating an ice cream cone and go out of their way to tell them “You know, you won’t have that cone 15 minutes from now”. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/87 "2024-06-01T17:25:29Z")
The _Pod Save America_ guys captured the vibe I also felt when the news broke about Trump’s convictions. This is my best attempt to transcribe the back-and-forth near the top of their latest podcast: Jon Favreau: Dan, how about that? Dan Pfeiffer: What a day, my friend. What a day. JF: Good things can happen! Oh, I’m sorry… were we supposed to be ‘this is a very serious and somber day for America’ or are we just popping champagne? DP: We’re popping champagne. JF: OK good, I just wanted to make sure you’re on… DP: We’re not gonna pretend. Everyone… all… everyone… JF: I know, I know, I know. DP: …everyone is pretending that we can’t be happy. ‘This is a dark day for America.’ We’ve been living in fuckin’ dark days for years now. Right? Let’s… let’s have a good one. JF: Right! And this is not to say that we’re, like, ‘Oh, this means were gonna win the election!’… DP: No no no, that… JF: That’s not what that means. DP: That’s coming up next. JF: That’s coming… yeah, were gonna talk about that later but today, this day, this weekend… this is a happy time. We can go back to being anxious and scared afterwards, but right now… happy day. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/88 "2024-06-01T17:30:27Z")
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” . - Winston Churchill ( Don’t look at me; I’m just here for the food. ) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/89 "2024-06-01T17:30:49Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Why does that bug you? Some people don’t like the fact that he was convicted. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/90 "2024-06-01T17:33:27Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Some people don’t like the fact that he was convicted. Well, we aren’t French. That said, who is to say our method is better? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/91 "2024-06-01T17:44:30Z")
> [@El\_DeLuxo](#): > > 34 felonies, and you know damned well that if Donald Trump serves any time at all–which isn’t gonna happen for reasons, all of which stink on ice–it’s going to be in one of those tennis-lessons prisons where they put all the rich, soft, white guys. He’d live in a comfy room like in a college dorm and eat good, real food, and work on his golf swing. You clearly have experience of some sort with this matter. Care to name the prison you or a loved one went to that had a comfy, college dorm like room and served good, real food was? Because they don’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/92 "2024-06-01T18:10:00Z")
Yep. You have to take the time to celebrate the wins or you will burn out. I used to be okay with the whole idea that pessimists are pleasantly surprised, until I realized that most pessimists also lose the ability to try. I thought maybe it was just me, but it seems to do that for everyone. I think that, in a very real sense, pessimism can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. And, no matter how bad something is, there’s no reason to make it worse like that. Sure, some level of realism–acknowledging that you can not win, or how hard it may be–is a good idea. But full on pessimism or cynicism does not seem to be. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/93 "2024-06-01T18:12:54Z")
Is that what you say when you cut in line at the buffet? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/94 "2024-06-01T18:20:37Z")
[![](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/B6m5n_83AlJ8MlybVxbeoQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTcyMjtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/gizmodo_news_915/14b4f2593bb87b38606369900e97d446) ](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/B6m5n_83AlJ8MlybVxbeoQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTcyMjtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/gizmodo_news_915/14b4f2593bb87b38606369900e97d446) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/95 "2024-06-01T18:46:00Z")
Personally what I’d like to see is house arrest in Trump Tower for the next nine months. No campaigning around the country, no rallies, etc… and a high likelihood he’ll disobey and get pitched into real prison. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/96 "2024-06-01T18:48:01Z")
Under house arrest are there any limits when it comes visitors? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/97 "2024-06-01T18:52:19Z")
> 1. I agree not to engage in, participate in, or otherwise attend parties, celebrations or social gatherings at my residence. > 2. I understand I must have prior approval from the probation officer to have visitors in my place of residence. Each approval will specify the hours I may have visitors. [Home Confinement | Middle District of Florida](https://www.flmp.uscourts.gov/home-confinement#:~:text=When%20an%20order%20of%20Home,as%20may%20be%20specifically%20authorized). (Dunno if this is the correct jurisdiction.) ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/98 "2024-06-01T18:58:29Z")
States that allow conjugal visits [![](https://www.dopplr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Screen-Shot-2016-04-15-at-2.33.39-PM.png) ](https://www.dopplr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Screen-Shot-2016-04-15-at-2.33.39-PM.png) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/99 "2024-06-01T19:08:26Z")
Somehow, I’m thinking it isn’t the state that’s the deciding factor in allowing conjugal visits here. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368/100 "2024-06-01T19:19:39Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > Just imagine the crowing and moaning if he had been found innocent or there was a hung jury. He could not have been “found innocent”, he could only have been found not guilty because of reasonable doubt. But of course Trump would completely cast aside that fact and would be crowing for months about being “completely exonerated” by a wise jury that saw through the sham of a case that should never have been brought. I much prefer his incessant whining with his usual list of grievances which might get even louder and inch closer to outright threats, and I hope that this is reflected in his sentence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-he-was-convicted-big-honking-deal/1002368.md?page=6)