# So help me Aquaman looks like a good movie! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [July 21, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347 "2018-07-21T22:20:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/61 "2018-07-24T17:12:07Z")
You can’t say that DC makes good movies that people hate just because they’re DC, and then wave away Wonder Woman as an anomaly. People gave Wonder Woman a chance, and it turned out to be pretty good, and so it was successful. It’s really that simple: Make good movies, and they’ll be successful. Yes, Wonder Woman had its flaws, but Gadot was good enough to make up for them. How good this movie is remains to be seen, and you can’t really tell from the trailer. But I’ll add my voice to the chorus that’s already saying that that red hair looks terrible. Either go with a natural hair color, or go with something so unnatural that it’s clearly unnatural like blue or green, but red-that’s-not-red-hair-red is just uncanny valley. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/62 "2018-07-24T17:29:49Z")
‘fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me’ I have a hard time with trailers for DC movies - several have been fantastic (as trailers), Suicide Squad is a great example - and then have the movies not live up (at all). So, yeah - the trailer for this looks interesting - but going to see it will be entirely dependant on what is playing against it that weekend. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/63 "2018-07-24T18:45:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I was with you all the way through Step One. > > People aren’t saying DC movies are bad because it’s trendy. They’re saying DC movies are bad because they’re bad. I disagree. ‘Trendy’ may not be the right word. DC isn’t making movies that appeal to the current zeitgeist. I don’t think people’s assessments are without bias toward a certain style/tone of movie. That’s why Wonder Woman ‘worked.’ Because it fit. The only genuinely bad DC movie so far is Suicide Squad. The rest have ranged from pretty good to flawed to meh. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/64 "2018-07-24T18:48:26Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > ‘Trendy’ may not be the right word. DC isn’t making movies that appeal to the current zeitgeist. I don’t think people’s assessments are without bias toward a certain style/tone of movie. That’s why Wonder Woman ‘worked.’ Because it fit. FWIW I’d love it if DC made more movies with Wonder Woman’s feel: mostly earnest, not much irony, not much grimdark. There can be wit and humor (please god), but it doesn’t need to be wink-wink-nudge-nudge, like MCU is. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/65 "2018-07-24T19:31:42Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > It looks just as good as every other DC movie. Call me psychic, this is how this movie is going to go: > > Step One: Make a good trailer everyone talks about. But since it’s DC everyone will say “whoa, every other trailer looked good, but it’ll probably suck!” > > Step Two: Movie comes out and is actually a pretty good movie. Not spectacular, but quite good. > > Step Three: People see the movie, but because it’s DC they automatically hate it and talk about how it’s trying to be Marvel but isn’t. “The movie is stupid/doesn’t make sense/sucks” > > Step Four: No one goes and sees the movie because word of mouth says it’s bad, even though it isn’t. > > Step Five: A billion articles about how DC isn’t as good as Marvel and why and blah blah. > It’s the same for every DC movie. > > BvS, Justice League and Suicide Squad were pretty good movies in their own right, but no one gives them a chance and they tank. For some reason, Wonder Woman gets a pass. I am guessing it’s because Gal Gadot is beautiful and did the character well, but the movie itself isn’t all that particularly good, it’s the same as every other DC movie. > > So, I’ll see this movie and enjoy it, but I doubt the sentiment will translate. I am glad that I am not alone. I wrote an entire thread about why I think Justice League is a good movie (the villain kind of suck, yes but nearly every Super Hero movie has a bad or at least boring villain). And while flawed I think BvS was a course correction in the right direction for Superman. Wonder Woman is awesome. I look forward to the sequel. I liked the version of Aquaman in JL. Now this trailer makes me excited to see this movie. I really liked the JL version of the Flash. I am hoping a movie gets announced soon. JL had the best looking and most “accurate” version of a Batman of any of his live action films. Even the Nolan films. He looked, moved and fought just right. Superman needs work but they are starting to fix what Man of Steel got wrong. Suicide Squad was an entertaining movie. I would love to see a Deadshot spin off. Marvel Movies are good but it is okay to also like DC movies too. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/66 "2018-07-24T19:46:05Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Marvel Movies are good but it is okay to also like DC movies too. Likewise, it’s okay to admit that a DC movie failed to get an audience on its own merits or failings instead of blaming some other studio or a cabal of fans for it. DC is up against some stiff competition but that’s on them to make it work. The comic fans I know would love to see a DC movie that pulled its weight. They follow the comics and talk about the television shows and buy collector’s editions of the complete Batman: the Animated Series. But a DC movie comes out and it ranges from “Meh” to “Bleah”. That’s not Marvel’s fault. Out of the other people I know, two thirds of them wouldn’t blink or see anything weird about Batman showing up to help Iron-Man, that’s how little they know or care about DC vs Marvel. But they’re still not excited about a new Superman flick because the previous ones were a drag. “Because it’s DC, they hate it” is a lame cop-out. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/67 "2018-07-24T19:58:53Z")
Exactly. I lay the entire thing at the feet of Zach Snyder. His “vision” for the DCU is what has dragged every movie they’ve done into the depths of garbage. ---
**Author:** ![EarlGrayHot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@EarlGrayHot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EarlGrayHot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/68 "2018-07-25T16:54:48Z")
She does indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/69 "2018-07-25T17:03:45Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Exactly. I lay the entire thing at the feet of Zach Snyder. His “vision” for the DCU is what has dragged every movie they’ve done into the depths of garbage. Yes. Zach Snyder and his foul stench is the entire problem. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/70 "2018-07-25T17:18:05Z")
> [@pool](#): > > I don’t know, that whole scene of him swimming into Atlantis or whatever it is made me have flashbacks of Phantom Menace, will Jar Jar be in the background somewhere? I wasn’t reminded of the SW scene, but I was thinking it would be kind of cool if they did a Jar Jar implant Easter Egg style. (No speaking parts or anything like that. Just have him hidden in the crowd somewhere for the uber geeks to find after they’ve combed over the movie a few times) ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/71 "2018-07-25T17:24:48Z")
> [@](#): > > But this trailer isn’t the complete dumpster fire that Shazam! is. I was so disappoint when I heard it was going to be comedy. Green Hornet sucked that way. Of course, I liked the GH radio serials. I was already sort of negative because it was New 52 Billy, which I don’t like nearly as much as the really good kid PreBoot version. I guess it makes it easier to disassociate from the comics, though, and that’s a plus. Won’t pay theater prices for it, though. Might stream later, if I’m quite bored, and try to keep it as a separate thing and not Captain Marvel (I know, I know, I haven’t even accepted the not-so-new name). I was just really hoping for a good modernization of Captain Marvel/Shazam. One that let him be the good kid he was in the comics (don’t have to be edgy/jerkish to be entertaining), and dropped the cornball motif/slang that all the other comics (that weren’t canceled in the 50s) gradually lost as the genre changed. You know, back when Billy was new, he wasn’t any more extreme, silly or dated in his language than any other character. I’m in interested in Aquaman. I hate evil siblings, but that’s kind of baked in the source material (though at least at one time in the comics his brother was all keen on welcoming Arthur and making him king and the brothers got set up to be hostile to each other, if I recall correctly - haven’t read a lot of Aquaman as I never liked evil siblings and got fed up with Atlantis getting destroyed/conquered/etc. over and over again - same thing happen with Tamaran it seems like). Don’t know why they did that to her hair, though. Still, I plan to check it out. For the record, I really liked Man of Steel, I enjoyed Batman v. Superman (only extended cut - what I heard about the theatrical was not good), and I liked Wonder Woman, too. Justice League was really not good at all. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/73 "2018-08-03T16:48:41Z")
“Why Must We Force Female Superheroes to Wear Terrible Red Wigs? For women in comic book movies, with great power comes horrendous red mops.” > **[Why Must We Force Female Superheroes to Wear Terrible Red Wigs?](https://slate.com/culture/2018/08/female-superheroes-wearing-bad-red-wigs-why-must-comic-book-movies-do-this.html)** > > For women in comic book movies, with great power comes horrendous red mops. Having thought it over, I actually like the fake red colors. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/74 "2018-10-05T21:17:47Z")
There is a new [extended trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGGaKv81_c) that just came out. It does look like it could be a really good comic book movie. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/75 "2018-10-05T22:14:50Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > There is a new [extended trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGGaKv81_c) that just came out. It does look like it could be a really good comic book movie. It looks like _Aquaman of Steel_ down to the “lifting the \ out of harm’s way” shot. Jason Momoa does a pretty credible Chris Pratt imitation, and I was going to credit the CGI with looking more polished than the first trailer until I got to the scenes of Amber Heard running across rooftops which look like an early 'Aughts _Elder Scrolls_ game. I’m waiting for an actually good post-Nolan DC movie (_Wonder Woman_ was a mediocre movie propped up by a great starring performance) but I’m dubious that this is it. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/76 "2018-10-06T02:07:01Z")
yeah - the extended trailer made me less likely to pay to go see it - I think Bumblebee starts the same weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/77 "2018-10-06T16:35:32Z")
Was never a comic book person by any means but watched plenty of the Super Friends as a kid in the 70s. Immediately got excited recognizing Black Manta who I haven’t thought about or seen in about 40 years. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/78 "2018-11-19T21:52:15Z")
The [final trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wcj6SrX4zw) is up. It looks more polished than earlier trailers, but that makes sense with the movie coming in about a month. I am still cautiously optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/79 "2018-11-19T22:01:54Z")
“Cautiously optimistic.” Well-phrased. Me, too. Although the “We need a hero” line made me throw-up in my mouth a little. OK, a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/80 "2018-11-20T12:13:07Z")
I’d rather had Vulko bad and Orm good/manipulated (I think that was status quo for at least a bit of N52?). But I’ve never liked evil siblings. And frankly, I sort of have issue with an outsider ruling Atlantis (and Arthur was raised as an outsider), especially given how absolute that monarchy often is in comics. It seems a little colonialist. Though at least Mera is actually Atlantean in this version, so that’s good. I’ll definitely check it out, but I don’t know if I’m going to go see it in theaters. I just don’t know that I can enjoy evil sibling much. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/81 "2018-11-20T12:38:08Z")
I didn’t get nearly as much of a ‘Thor’ vibe from the previous trailer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347.md?page=5)