# So help me Aquaman looks like a good movie!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies, hbomax-wb-dc\
**Created:** [July 21, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347 "2018-07-21T22:20:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/162 "2019-03-31T19:37:52Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> You know what has five tines? A pitchfork. Nicole Kidman had a magic pitchfork.

I am not a farmer, but I’m not sure I’ve seen a pitchfork with more than four tines.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/163 "2019-03-31T20:39:16Z")

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I’ve seen them with a lot of tines, but four seems to be most common.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/164 "2019-03-31T21:54:47Z")

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😛

> **[Durafork Pitchfork Head](https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/durafork-pitchfork-head-2031?bvstate=pg:2%2Fct:r)**
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> Replacement head for the Durafork pitchfork. Red. 
> 
> Note: Replacement head does not include handle or hardware. Requires 1 3/4" x 1/4" bolt and nylon nut to attach to handle...

I pitched a LOT of hay as a kid.

[https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=927&bih=567&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=2jahXOCWGa3l\_Qa0xKK4AQ&q=pitchfork+five+tines&oq=pitchfork+five+tines&gs\_l=img.3...95611.97481..97829...0.0..0.86.750.11......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i67j0i30j0i24.5ZsiiJAIHqM](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=927&bih=567&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=2jahXOCWGa3l_Qa0xKK4AQ&q=pitchfork+five+tines&oq=pitchfork+five+tines&gs_l=img.3...95611.97481..97829...0.0..0.86.750.11......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i67j0i30j0i24.5ZsiiJAIHqM)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/165 "2019-04-01T03:10:03Z")

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Late to the party, but saw it.

Only OK and mostly forgettable. Yes, Jason Momoa is great and he really is a great actor. I think he deserves better scripts than this.

Terrible CGI. I kind of can’t believe it because I am not a huge critic of effects. This is one of the few movies where the effects were super noticeable. I’m talking whole-body replacement with CG people and they looked really bad. Note Blade 2 bad(that movie was 17 years ago, mind you), but really bad.

Anyway, this is not a terrible movie, but it is also not that memorable or great. Wonder Woman remains the only really good DC movie at this point. I’d rank them like this.

1. Wonder Woman
2. Man of Steel
3. Aquaman
4. Suicide Squad
5. Batman V. Superman
6. Justice League

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/166 "2019-04-01T05:13:08Z")

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He’s a charming actor. He has charisma. He’s pretty far from a great actor, I think. At least we haven’t seen much range.

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**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/167 "2019-04-01T05:24:45Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> 😛
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> [Durafork Pitchfork Head](https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/durafork-pitchfork-head-2031?bvstate=pg:2/ct:r)  
> I pitched a LOT of hay as a kid.

Wow! A dekaeftadent!  
Although it looks a lot more like a rake IMO.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/168 "2019-04-05T04:50:58Z")

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I think Jason Momoa is a mediocre actor at best. But he looks like he’s having a heckuva lot of fun these days, so good on him.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/169 "2019-04-05T11:26:05Z")

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I don’t know how good he is in general, but he was certainly good in this role.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/170 "2019-04-05T11:57:35Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Anyway, this is not a terrible movie, but it is also not that memorable or great. Wonder Woman remains the only really good DC movie at this point. I’d rank them like this.
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> 1. Wonder Woman
> 2. Man of Steel
> 3. Aquaman
> 4. Suicide Squad
> 5. Batman V. Superman
> 6. Justice League

This is my ranking

Good:

1. Wonder Woman

Pretty good:  
2. Aquaman

Meh:  
3. Man of Steel

Not Terrible, but not good  
4. Justice League  
5. Batman Vs. Superman

Just really appallingly awful  
6. Suicide Squad

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/171 "2019-04-05T14:47:35Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> This is my ranking
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> Good:
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> 1. Wonder Woman
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> Pretty good:  
> 2. Aquaman
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> Meh:  
> 3. Man of Steel
> 
> Not Terrible, but not good  
> 4. Justice League  
> 5. Batman Vs. Superman
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> Just really appallingly awful  
> 6. Suicide Squad

I mostly agree, but would put Man of Steel in the pretty good category, and I may move Batman V Superman down.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/172 "2019-04-05T19:55:19Z")

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As I wrote way back in the OP I am a bigger fan than the average person of DC’s current slate but I would put MoS much much lower than the lists above. It is a decent action movie but it is a terrible Superman movie.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/173 "2019-04-05T20:20:25Z")

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I saw Aquaman a couple of months ago, on a plane. Short review:

The images were colorful. The acting varied between poor and acceptable. Michelle Pfeifer \> Nicole Kidman. Story was mostly stupid.

Perfectly reasonable way to fill time on a plane but there are better films in the world.

Amber Heard should go talk to Brad Pitt about how he got out of “good looking but not a great actor” land and into “good looking and a very good actor” territory in the mid-late 90s.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/174 "2019-04-05T21:51:06Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> As I wrote way back in the OP I am a bigger fan than the average person of DC’s current slate but I would put MoS much much lower than the lists above. It is a decent action movie but it is a terrible Superman movie.

Yeah, when you make a movie where a lot of viewers find Superman unapproachable, even unlikable, you should know you’re in trouble…

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/175 "2019-04-14T16:59:20Z")

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Bumping this because I saw this last night. I thought it was objectively a pretty poor movie, but managed to be simultaneously enjoyable as hell.

I don’t think I’ve seen an octopus playing the drums in a movie before. 🙂

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/176 "2019-04-14T17:38:33Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> As I wrote way back in the OP I am a bigger fan than the average person of DC’s current slate but I would put MoS much much lower than the lists above. It is a decent action movie but it is a terrible Superman movie.

I have been thinking about this and I’m not sure where I posted it, so if I said it here, I apologize.

I don’t get this. Now, it’s been a while since I watched MoS but I remember the two big objections were

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Superman killing Zod and not saving people from the Kryptonian devices. (Which led directly to BvS)

As to the first point, Superman killed Zod in Superman II. He crushed his hand, picked him up, and throw him against a wall, to fall and die, either from the fall or exposure. He then went on to ignore/not save the other two Kryptonians in that movie. Maybe not as direct as MoS but it’s there.

As to the destruction, MoS tried to set up that this Superman is more removed from humanity than previous tellings of it. His first priority was to stop the conversion not save the people. Whether or not it works is up to each viewer. Upon reflection, I guess it’s internally consistent but I don’t know that I like it.

Personally, I’m more disappointed in how fast Zod and others adapted to Earth’s atmosphere. They did a reverse Chekov’s Gun in that it seems like that would be how Superman defeated them but then it wasn’t.

Back to Aquaman.

Well, I have said my bit on that above.

Speaking of DC.

My wife apparently doesn’t like the WW movie because she doesn’t think the villain was worthy of WW. I can understand that.

Saw Shazam and had a lot of fun with it. Sure, maybe Solomon was missing, but it worked and was fun. And that’s what the DC movies need.

Aquaman doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, imo, but it was fun and that helped it a lot.

Thanks for the discussion!

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/177 "2019-04-15T08:08:31Z")

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> [@vislor](#):
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> I don’t get this. Now, it’s been a while since I watched MoS but I remember the two big objections

Another big objection was Superman letting his own father just die.

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> As to the destruction, MoS tried to set up that this Superman is more removed from humanity than previous tellings of it.

Which is what _made_ it a shitty Superman movie. Superman is _not_ supposed to be an alien god.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/178 "2019-04-15T20:59:42Z")

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I’ve said it before: It’s impossible to tell a good story (in comic book, novel, cartoon, TV show, or movie, or any other form) about Superman. What you need to do is to tell good stories about Clark Kent.

His human side is the best thing about the character.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/179 "2019-04-15T22:55:01Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I think Jason Momoa is a mediocre actor at best. But he looks like he’s having a heckuva lot of fun these days, so good on him.

I thought he was very good in The Red Road.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/180 "2019-04-16T17:30:10Z")

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Got this puppy out of the Redbox last night. What a hot mess! We loved Jason Momoa, thought some of the dialogue was sort of funny, thought Amber Heard was gorgeous, and some of the CGI was amazing. But it went on too long, too much, too many ‘Creature from the Black Lagoon’ villains. All that technology, gigantic seahorses and other critters, too much stuffy talk talk talking. “The Brine Shrimp are rallying to our side, next, the Calamari Tribe!” The Atlanteans certainly are fond of their mommies and daddies, with all that ‘you killed my father! well, you killed my mother!’ Too darned much! It probably worked better on a big movie theater screen, and if you were under 40.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-help-me-aquaman-looks-like-a-good-movie/818347/181 "2022-09-13T03:33:05Z")

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Amber Heard is an awful actress  
They had no chemistry  
She either looked dull or like she was acting in porn movie

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