# So How are you celebrating Indigenous Peoples Day today?

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**Created:** [October 9, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395 "2017-10-09T16:50:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/1 "2017-10-09T16:50:27Z")

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> Columbus Day is being recognized today across the United States. But in more than 50 U.S. cities, along with a few universities, counties and states, it’s not. Instead, those places are celebrating Indigenous Peoples Day.
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> Rather than commemorating the explorer Christopher Columbus, who has come to be seen as a controversial figure in recent years, the new holiday focuses on the lives of the people he and other European explorers encountered in the New World.
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> “Indigenous Peoples Day represents a shift in consciousness,” says Dr. Leo Killsback, a citizen of the Northern Cheyenne Nation and assistant professor of American Indian Studies at Arizona State University. “It acknowledges that indigenous peoples and their voices are important in today’s conversations.”

> **[Columbus Day? In More Than 50 Cities, It's Indigenous Peoples Day.](https://www.governing.com/archive/lc-indigenous-peoples-day-cities-columbus-day.html)**
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> What started as a fringe movement has gained steam in recent years.

It is still Columbus Day where I live, but I only notice holidays like this when I go to the post office to pick up my mail–and the post office is closed.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/2 "2017-10-09T16:58:51Z")

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Columbus Day is October 12. Indigenous People’s Day can be whenever it wants to be. Neither are “holidays” in my usual sense of the word. Thanksgiving is a holiday.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/3 "2017-10-09T17:18:28Z")

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According to my calendar and the local government buildings, Columbus Day is today.

I’m at work. I guess my kid is “celebrating” by kickin’ it at his sitter’s house all day instead of going to school. I wouldn’t be doing anything different regardless of what label you want to slap on the day.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/4 "2017-10-09T17:23:56Z")

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Off today trying to clean up after a hurricane.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/5 "2017-10-09T17:24:12Z")

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I ate some corn earlier, does that count?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/6 "2017-10-09T17:48:26Z")

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Columbus Day is one of those “holidays” where I walk out to the mailbox at work (50 yards from the building) every half hour or so until finally someone says, “hey, kayaker, no mail today, it’s some stupid holiday”.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/7 "2017-10-09T17:55:09Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I ate some corn earlier, does that count?

What you people call “maize.” I have spoken.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/8 "2017-10-09T17:56:16Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> Columbus Day is October 12.

That’s the day that Columbus landed in the Bahamas. “Columbus Day” is the name of a holiday that commemorates that event. It happens on whatever day is designated for its recognition. “Presidents Day” likewise is the name of a holiday honoring the Presidents of the US, rather than Washington’s or Lincoln’s Birthdays.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/9 "2017-10-09T18:34:41Z")

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I’m watching _The Goonies_.

(I don’t have Gremlins or Young Sherlock Holmes.)

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/10 "2017-10-09T18:38:17Z")

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By avoiding Facebook. Although I’m left of center, I can’t stand the aggressive virtue signaling by my other left of center friends. There’s a lot bigger fish to fry these days than whining about Christopher Columbus. And, Pocahontas was a Disney cartoon, not a documentary. Elevating Native American tribes to sainthood is as dumb as deifying Christopher Columbus.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/11 "2017-10-09T19:18:53Z")

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I’m cleaning up the house before my surgery later this week–since I won’t be doing anything for at least a week afterwards. And I’ve been having a Tim Curry filmfest. Nothing to do with the day except that I’m at home and not working-from-home. So let’s do the Time Warp again!

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/12 "2017-10-09T19:22:11Z")

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I just saw a schoolbus stop at the corner down the street below my window, so it’s not like the neighborhood kids even had a holiday today regardless of the name.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/13 "2017-10-09T19:25:14Z")

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> … indigenous peoples and their voices are important in today’s conversations.

This sounds like the red version of “black lives matter” to me. OK, great, “their voices are important”, but isn’t everyone’s voice “important”? Or is the citizen of the Northern Cheyenne Nation suggesting that indigenous peoples’ voices are _more_ important than others? If so, why would that be the case?

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/14 "2017-10-09T19:56:37Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> This sounds like the red version of “black lives matter” to me. OK, great, “their voices are important”, but isn’t everyone’s voice “important”? Or is the citizen of the Northern Cheyenne Nation suggesting that indigenous peoples’ voices are _more_ important than others? If so, why would that be the case?

WTF !! That is not what is being said by indigenous peoples ! Do you have any idea what the Columbus the terrorist did to indigenous peoples ?? Indigenous peoples are saying they’re just as important as everyone else and that we need to stop celebrating terrorists that committed crimes on Indigenous peoples that you could never imagine ! Columbus IS NOT worthily of having a damn holiday named for him any more than Hitler is !

I stayed in for Indigenous Peoples Day b/c it been raining all day . I had nothing to do with Terrorist Day and stayed away from down town , I want nothing to do with that terrorist !

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/15 "2017-10-09T20:32:14Z")

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> [@purplehearingaid](#):
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> WTF !! That is not what is being said by indigenous peoples ! Do you have any idea what the Columbus the terrorist did to indigenous peoples ??

By that measure, shouldn’t it be Taino-Arawak Day?

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/16 "2017-10-09T20:44:40Z")

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> [@purplehearingaid](#):
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> WTF !! That is not what is being said by indigenous peoples ! …

What do you mean? From the OP:

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> “Indigenous Peoples Day represents a shift in consciousness,” says Dr. Leo Killsback, a citizen of the Northern Cheyenne Nation and assistant professor of American Indian Studies at Arizona State University. “It acknowledges that indigenous peoples and their voices are important in today’s conversations.”

Are you saying Dr. Leo Killsback is not an indigenous person?

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/17 "2017-10-09T20:57:48Z")

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Scrubbing mold off the shower tile grout. Domestic bliss ensured 🙂 Now THERE’s some celebration.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/18 "2017-10-09T21:08:49Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> That’s the day that Columbus landed in the Bahamas. “Columbus Day” is the name of a holiday that commemorates that event. It happens on whatever day is designated for its recognition. “Presidents Day” likewise is the name of a holiday honoring the Presidents of the US, rather than Washington’s or Lincoln’s Birthdays.

Except it’s still officially named Washington’s Birthday, despite not actually being his birthday. Moving the holiday for anniversaries to more convenient days is fairly common. If you’re going to have a Federal holiday, having it next to a weekend is the least disruptive.

And, yeah, my school isn’t off either. The school isn’t federal–it’s state run. And they don’t care about this “holiday.” On the other hand, the U.S. Mail doesn’t run.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/19 "2017-10-09T21:12:47Z")

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You know how you should celebrate Columbus Day? March into your neighbour’s house and announce, “Yeah, now I live here! And all of this is mine!” 😃

(Here in Canada it’s Thanksgiving so there’s a turkey in the oven, and the house smells divine!)

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/20 "2017-10-09T21:14:47Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> You know how you should celebrate Columbus Day? March into your neighbour’s house and announce, “Yeah, now I live here! And all of this is mine!” 😃
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> (Here in Canada it’s Thanksgiving so there’s a turkey in the oven, and the house smells divine!)

You guys celebrate Thanksgiving on Columbus Day?

ETA: This is terrible advice. Here in America, we shoot people for shit like that.

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