# So How are you celebrating Indigenous Peoples Day today? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 9, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395 "2017-10-09T16:50:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/41 "2017-10-10T14:22:16Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > I know in your secular religion the cardinal sin is to imply Western culture is any better than paleolithic, but we have to agree to disagree on that. Western culture even in the late middle ages contained the seeds for major human advancement not seen everywhere else, definitely not among stone age people. > > It doesn’t mean individual people are anything other than all God’s children (sorry, that’s how I see it so why sanitize it by phrasing it differently?). Doesn’t mean Columbus was a great guy, but his discovery (from the Western perspective, our perspective) the start of a great thing. The holiday isn’t IMO about celebrating him as a great guy. Also, here in the northeast US with it’s much higher concentration of Italian Americans than elsewhere in the US, it’s as much Italian Pride Day as anything else. From a human perspective, I think it was the start (or continuation) of a ton of things, many of which were absolutely abominable. Western culture bears just as much responsibility for horrors like slavery and near genocide of native people as it does for advancing past these. Other cultures were also involved in both. IMO, Columbus day is just another example of our society trying to ignore all these horrors. I think we should celebrate the good things and actions and events in our history, and condemn the bad ones. I think Columbus falls pretty clearly on the bad side of this when there are so many contemporaries we could celebrate, both European and other, who were quite clearly doing good. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/42 "2017-10-10T14:43:28Z")
“…the start of a great thing” Unless you were a native, of course. Then it was the beginning of the end. For your freedom, your culture, your land and your way of life. The bringing in of slaves was ‘the start of a great thing’, for southern growers…not so much for the slaves, of course. How can you care about statues to racists and ignore a holiday to remember the beginning of a genocide? (Oh and the biggest mass shooting in American history? Is only what’s happening today if you entirely ignore the numerous outright slaughters of the native peoples.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/43 "2017-10-10T15:59:14Z")
Since Columbus Day is always on a Monday during football season, why not a game between the Redskins and the Patriots. May the best team win!! ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/44 "2017-10-10T16:27:08Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Frankly I cant think of anything that wouldn’t be offensive to Indians. I cant imagine doing a parade or anything. I’m pretty sure calling them Indians, as Christopher Columbus did, is offensive to them. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/45 "2017-10-10T16:34:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Since Columbus Day is always on a Monday during football season, why not a game between the Redskins and the Patriots. May the best team win!! Isn’t baseball still going on? Do they do baseball games on Mondays? Maybe the Braves / Indians vs Yankees / Nationals? ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/46 "2017-10-10T16:58:28Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Frankly I cant think of anything that wouldn’t be offensive to Indians. I cant imagine doing a parade or anything. Like with any group a lot depends on the region and/or individual. I know fairly-full-blood-registered Natives who are fine with the various Italian “Indian” actors and wrestlers. I know others who go almost homicidal at the sight of the “pow-wow crowd” – or “polyester pawnee” as I’ve heard them called – even though most are of some Native heritage. Mileage varies widely. I almost wish we could get some more recognition is the US but then you get to the great debate over whose vision plays out. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/47 "2017-10-10T17:23:23Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I’m pretty sure calling them Indians, as Christopher Columbus did, is offensive to them. Depends. I’ve known some who go for Native American, I’ve known some who rolled their eyes at Native American as overly PC and said “Just say Indian, man” (I can’t imagine how they’d react to Indigenous Peoples). I know the Smithsonian did a lot of tribal outreach when preparing their museum ('cause my wife was part of that) and settled on the [Museum of the American Indian](http://www.nmai.si.edu/). Honestly, it’s one of those “you gotta ask” things. There’s no consistent view on what people want to be called or what they think is offensive/tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/48 "2017-10-10T17:46:04Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > …(Also, I think you’ll find that y’all picked Canadian Thanksgiving to celebrate Columbus Day on!) _In April 1934, as a result of lobbying by the Knights of Columbus and New York City Italian leader Generoso Pope, Congress and President Franklin Delano Roosevelt proclaimed October 12 a federal holiday under the name Columbus Day._ In 1934, Columbus Day became a federal holiday, to be celebrated on Oct 12th. In 1970, the federal holiday’s celebration date was changed to the 2nd Monday in Oct. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/49 "2017-10-13T01:51:02Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > Also, here in the northeast US with it’s much higher concentration of Italian Americans than elsewhere in the US, it’s as much Italian Pride Day as anything else. Well then the solution is obvious, isn’t it? Just call it Italian Pride Day. ---
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/50 "2017-10-13T18:34:58Z")
I wore my [Columbo](https://www.teeshirtpalace.com/products/just-one-more-thing-columbo-t-shirt?gclid=CjwKCAjwyIHPBRAIEiwAHPS-GDgC0LUKXnw3tDiWDY6m2gFGtFpzpwGT_EY2GFiEAl8t7nb6QS5l2xoCMbUQAvD_BwE) t-shirt because yesterday, not Monday, was Columbo’s Day. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/51 "2017-10-13T19:19:02Z")
> [@Reeses\_Monkey](#): > > I wore my [Columbo](https://www.teeshirtpalace.com/products/just-one-more-thing-columbo-t-shirt?gclid=CjwKCAjwyIHPBRAIEiwAHPS-GDgC0LUKXnw3tDiWDY6m2gFGtFpzpwGT_EY2GFiEAl8t7nb6QS5l2xoCMbUQAvD_BwE) t-shirt because yesterday, not Monday, was Columbo’s Day. Just one more thing, sir. Did you also wear the trench coat and smoke a cigar? ---
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/52 "2017-10-13T22:06:49Z")
Rainjacket, no cigar. But I do drive a quirky foreign car. ---
**Author:** ![LongTimeLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@LongTimeLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LongTimeLurker)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395/53 "2017-10-15T16:59:41Z")
> [@Miss\_Mapp](#): > > I’m cleaning up the house before my surgery later this week–since I won’t be doing anything for at least a week afterwards. And I’ve been having a Tim Curry filmfest. Nothing to do with the day except that I’m at home and not working-from-home. So let’s do the Time Warp again! It’s just a jump to the left And then a step to the right My prayers are with you Miss Mapp. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-are-you-celebrating-indigenous-peoples-day-today/798395.md?page=2)