# So how do I go about becoming an eco-fascist? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 4, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250 "2010-05-04T03:58:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/1 "2010-05-04T03:58:03Z")
I’m really quite the amateur at this. And I’m not much of a joiner either. But please tell me what steps I can take to become an eco-fascist? I’m fairly energetic, comrades, so give me the Straight Dope to give me the best chance of becoming a rrreally good one. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/2 "2010-05-04T04:08:01Z")
Since the OP is seeking professional advice, this is better suited for IMHO than GQ. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/3 "2010-05-04T04:12:57Z")
Actually, [fascism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism) tends not to be a particularly eco-friendly ideology (what with all the militarism and corporatism and all like that there), and thus is probably not the best choice for someone interested in environmentally-oriented extremism. If what you’re really after is just becoming an eco-fanatic or eco-radical in general, there are many earnest and annoying organizations you can seek out, the best-known of which include PETA, Earth First!, and Earth Liberation Front. You can also join more mainstream conservation organizations such as the Nature Conservancy or the World Wide Fund for Nature, and position yourself as an extremist radical fringe element within them. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/4 "2010-05-04T04:15:21Z")
read The Monkey Wrench Gang ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/5 "2010-05-04T04:45:38Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Actually, [fascism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism) tends not to be a particularly eco-friendly ideology (what with all the militarism and corporatism and all like that there), and thus is probably not the best choice for someone interested in environmentally-oriented extremism. Yeah, but let’s say we’re going to refer to each other as ‘comrade’, and yet be committed eco-fascists. I need help hammering out the technical details. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/6 "2010-05-04T04:54:44Z")
My father was a petty ecoterrorist. When I was young he would go at night to local construction projects and change markings on trees so a few extra ones would be left standing. ---
**Author:** ![cuberdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cuberdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuberdon)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/7 "2010-05-04T05:12:30Z")
Read Zodiac by Neal Stephenson. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/8 "2010-05-04T06:08:10Z")
Well, [this](http://www.exactitudes.com/index.php?/series/all/50) is the dresscode. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/9 "2010-05-04T09:59:46Z")
First, one must train the Panda Bears to goose-step… ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/10 "2010-05-04T10:16:22Z")
> [@LouiseE](#): > > Read Zodiac by Neal Stephenson. we LOVE that book in this house! wouldn’t it make a great book [if hollywood didnt screw with it] ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/11 "2010-05-04T14:44:19Z")
> [@T2BC](#): > > Yeah, but let’s say we’re going to refer to each other as ‘comrade’, and yet be committed eco-fascists. > > I need help hammering out the technical details. I think you’re mixing up your totalitarian ideologies here. “Comrade” was a typical **communist** form of address, not fascist. What do you think an “eco-fascist” is, anyway? We could give you more help about the details if we had some idea of what you had in mind. > [@thirdname](#): > > My father was a petty ecoterrorist. When I was young he would go at night to local construction projects and change markings on trees so a few extra ones would be left standing. Nitpick: I’d call that eco-sabotage or eco-vandalism rather than eco-terrorism, since it sounds as though he was a long way from actually trying to harm anybody in order to intimidate people into making policy concessions. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/12 "2010-05-04T14:54:59Z")
Go off on a loud swearing diatribe whenever someone mentions nuclear energy as being a good solution to many environmental problems. If they press you into debate, simply yell "HELLO! Three Mile Island (known to you from now on as TMI which incidentally is the same abbreviation as Too Much Info)! Chernobyl! Carry around some pictures of random deformed Eastern Bloc looking kids with you at all times for show and tell. You need to change your diet as well. Becoming a regular vegetarian just doesn’t cut it any more. The bar has been raised considerably. Becoming a regular vegan is safe but to get street cred, you really need to become a “raw vegan” that only eats plants and fungi that can be hand gathered from a 10 mile radius of where you live. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/13 "2010-05-04T15:52:11Z")
I’d suggest following in the footsteps of these [guys](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Alaska_Pipeline_System#Incidents) > [@](#): > > The largest oil spill involving the main pipeline took place on February 15, 1978, when an unknown individual blew a 1-inch (2.54-centimeter) hole in it at Steele Creek, just east of Fairbanks.[153] Approximately 16,000 barrels (2,500 m³) of oil leaked out of the hole before the pipeline was shut down.[148] After more than 21 hours, it was restarted.[154] > > The steel pipe is resistant to gunshots and has resisted them on several occasions, but on October 4, 2001, a drunken gunman named Daniel Carson Lewis shot a hole into a weld near Livengood, causing the second-largest mainline oil spill in pipeline history.[155] Approximately 6,144 barrels (976.8 m3) leaked from the pipeline; 4,238 barrels (673.8 m3) were recovered and reinjected into the pipeline.[156] Nearly 2 acres (8,100 m2) of tundra were soiled and were removed in the cleanup.[157] The pipeline was repaired and was restarted more than 60 hours later.[158] Lewis was found guilty in December 2002 of criminal mischief, assault, drunken driving, oil pollution, and misconduct. He was sentenced to 16 years in jail and ordered to repay the $17 million cleanup costs.[159] ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/14 "2010-05-04T16:44:45Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > First, one must train the Panda Bears to goose-step… Can geese panda-step? ---
**Author:** ![Emily\_Litella](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emily_litella/32/3370_2.png) [@Emily\_Litella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emily_Litella)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/15 "2010-05-04T17:53:43Z")
Join Green Peace +/or the Sierra Club. I’m sure you’ll find some others there who can help you out. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/16 "2010-05-04T21:59:04Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Can geese panda-step? NEIN! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-how-do-i-go-about-becoming-an-eco-fascist/538250/17 "2010-05-06T02:06:24Z")
**Oredigger** : This part of your quote is particularly interesting: > [@](#): > > Lewis was found guilty in December 2002 of criminal mischief, assault, drunken driving, oil pollution, and misconduct. He was sentenced to 16 years in jail The dude got sentenced to \*jail \*for oil pollution. To answer **Kimstu** , I’m thinking of the kind of hard-nosed eco-fascist who ensures that people guilty of oil pollution go to jail for it. They never cry, they are not only vegan but also straight-edge, and if becoming Global Autocrat is what it takes to enforce their will then by golly, that’s what they’ll do. Reluctant to engage in violence but extremely dangerous. They put in more hours than Che Guevara, comrade.