# So I am \*really\* enjoying Deep Space 9 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 31, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694 "2003-05-31T02:12:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/1 "2003-05-31T02:12:45Z")
So I picked up the first season of DS9 a few months ago on a lark. Half way through I realized that I **hadn’t** seen many of these shows. Thinking back I realized that I’d watched some episodes in the first season but then gone off to Iowa for grad school. With no television. This is much better than I’d thought it would be. I’ve just finished the second season with the first appearance of the Jem Hadar. Man, that’s badass. Why the hell didn’t you people tell me it was this good? ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/2 "2003-05-31T02:22:38Z")
The theme changes later in the show’s run. Worf is introduced as a character and the plots become much more serialized and militaristic. I loved it, others didn’t. I need to find the early episodes, since I didn’t watch faithfully until Worf showed up. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/3 "2003-05-31T02:57:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*Why the hell didn’t you people tell me it was this good? \*\* For what it’s worth, [I did](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142162). And for that matter, so did [others](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178404). So quit whining. 😉 Seriously, DS9 is pretty easily my favorite Trek series. It has the strongest overall storyline and some of the more interesting single episodes, including the famous Tribble episode. The only real problem I had with it was that the final, series-ending episode (which I just saw last night) could have been so much better… but there are worse things. And if you think it’s good _now_, just wait until you get to the Dominion Wars. That’s when it really starts to kick ass. Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/4 "2003-05-31T03:18:51Z")
DS9, along with Wrath of Khan and First Contact, are pretty much all that keeps me from writing off the entire Star Trek franchise. Never cared for TOS, Next Gen was always hit or miss, and the less said about Voyager and Enterprise the better, but DS9 was the one show that I’d go out of my way to watch every week. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/5 "2003-05-31T03:19:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Avalonian \* > \*\*And if you think it’s good _now_, just wait until you get to the Dominion Wars. That’s when it really starts to kick ass. > > Enjoy! \*\* Especially the episode where they arm the station to the teeth and shoot anything that moves. They blow’d up good. They blow’d up REAL good. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/6 "2003-05-31T03:25:07Z")
I worship at the altars of Ira Steven Behr and Michael Piller every chance I get. TOS was nothing but pure cheese, TNG was good but too bland in its holier than thou utopia, Voyager was only for the diehard fans of the franchise (such as myself) who could put their brain on autopilot and Enterprise is much like Voyager. Deep Space Nine, on the other hand, is an epic waiting to happen. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/7 "2003-05-31T04:41:06Z")
My cousin loved DS9 too and keeps asking me when they’re going to make a DS9 movie. It’s a nice thought but I just don’t think it will ever happen. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/8 "2003-05-31T04:42:31Z")
_shakes fist menacingly_ ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/9 "2003-05-31T04:46:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*My cousin loved DS9 too and keeps asking me when they’re going to make a DS9 movie. It’s a nice thought but I just don’t think it will ever happen. \*\* I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: _Star Trek Deep Space Nine: The Return of Ben Sisko_. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/10 "2003-05-31T04:49:05Z")
We can all yearn for it–and I do–but will the powers at Paramount hear our collective cry? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/11 "2003-05-31T04:50:13Z")
Maybe if we storm the gates with phasers blazing? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/12 "2003-05-31T04:54:43Z")
Or in your case, a Xindi mini-death star cutting a swath through certain producers’/writers’ offices? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/13 "2003-05-31T04:56:08Z")
Are you calling me a Star Wars fan? Those’re fighting words! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/14 "2003-05-31T04:59:57Z")
[crunch] [munch munch munch] Whatcha doin? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/15 "2003-05-31T20:52:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aesiron \* > \*\*Are you calling me a Star Wars fan? Those’re fighting words! \*\* I was making an elliptical reference to the Bermaga’s offices. Ya missed it! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/16 "2003-06-01T01:35:18Z")
:dubious: ::reholsters phaser:: ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/17 "2003-06-01T02:39:07Z")
Glad we avoided that. Garak is so damn cool. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/18 "2003-06-01T02:46:22Z")
I always liked Dukat and Damar better but Garak’s a badass too. Do you read the Trek novels? If so, pick up “A Stitch in Time” by Andrew Robinson, the actor who played Garak. It’s a biography of sorts and is really interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/19 "2003-06-01T02:48:28Z")
Garak is probably one of the single best characters **ever** in any ST franchise. From beginning to end, I had more questions about him than answers. The DS9 DVDs are my next purchase, after I complete my Babylon 5 set. Does ANYONE still watch Enterprise? I tried, I really did. But I just hit my limit. Come on, stop rewriting canon every time we turn around! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694/20 "2003-06-01T02:58:09Z")
Si. There’s a new thread for each new episode and all the Enterprise threads together equal over three thousand posts. There’re a few of us left. ;j [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-am-really-enjoying-deep-space-9/178694.md?page=2)