# So ... I guess I am a fogey

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 12, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253 "2008-01-12T04:46:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Carm6773](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Carm6773](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carm6773)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/61 "2008-01-14T00:17:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Wile E]  
Hey, who let the Really Old Fogeys in here?

Are you guys trying to out-fogey us with your Roosevelts, WW2 and '57 Chevys? Can’t we all just get along and pick on those young upstarts together? They may be younger and more spry but we’ve got them in numbers and voting power.  
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Really! I was a year old when Nixon resigned, and there are some days that I feel old. I mean, I have a GREAT NIECE. Talk about feeling old!

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/62 "2008-01-14T00:41:38Z")

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[QUOTE=KSO]  
Here’s another thing: when did it become OK to go out in public in pajamas? I see this all the time–it’s always high school or college girls wearing what are obviously pajama bottoms out in public. The girl I saw today at the bagel shop (at 11:30 in the morning) was also wearing her slippers. WTF? To me that’s completely low rent and trashy–put on jeans and a hat like a normal person. 🙂  
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You know where pyjama pants came from, right? They are the standard dress for India and [came over with the British](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyjama). Nothing necessarily sleepwearish about them.

**eleanorigby** , you can’t be a fogey, because you are only a year older than me, and that would mean that… that…

I can’t say it.

But I’ve noticed a dismaying amount of that great 1980’s-style music being played over the ceiling speakers at the mall lately.  
:: sob ::

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**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/63 "2008-01-14T00:53:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose]

> [@](#):
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> The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

I first heard this quote in 1968. I’ve never forgotten it.

I was 15 and it sounded exactly right to me. 🆒

I might recognize a '57 Chevy, but I’ve never had an eye for pickup trucks.

Archergal  
in touch with  
her inner geezer

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**Author:** ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/64 "2008-01-14T01:06:17Z")

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[QUOTE=DianaG]  
t. My Christmas gifts from my daughter and said friend were:

The MCR Black Parade collector’s edition  
A grey (“To match your coat!”) pinstripe newsboy style hat \*from Hot Topic \* (which is actually kind of cute, dammit)  
A ring for a piercing that I don’t currently have, which they feel I should ("You’d \*totally \* rock that, Mom!)  
e. 😃  
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Heh. My GF (who is 51) got a college hoodie from her oldest son (23.) It was way, way, way too big for her (XXL men’s hoodie on a medium woman.)

He kept insisting that she should wear it that size because it’s “gangster.”

It was fun to watch the derision of his younger, redneck, siblings.  
“Mom the elementary school teacher is gonna be GANGSTER!!??”

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**Author:** ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/65 "2008-01-14T01:09:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]

But I’ve noticed a dismaying amount of that great 1980’s-style music being played over the ceiling speakers at the mall lately.  
:: sob ::  
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One day I was in Safeway and realized they were playing a Muzak version of, “Smells Like Teen Spirit.”

When I told my 26 yo secretary I thought she was going to cry.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/66 "2008-01-14T01:20:40Z")

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I remember ‘45’ records, dialling phones and black/white TV.

I’ve never sent a text message. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/67 "2008-01-14T02:59:18Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I’ve never sent a text message. :eek:  
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Not only have I never sent a text message, but by choice I’ve never owned a cellphone! (The wife has one, though.)

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/68 "2008-01-14T03:41:20Z")

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I never use my iPod nano–it has nine songs on it. I don’t own any headphones, oh, I mean ear buds, for it.

I, too, hear lots of 80s music, including Stones, as Muzak. I always wonder what people my parent’s age think of “Satisfaction” as a string instrumental…

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/69 "2008-01-14T04:16:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
I’ve noticed a dismaying amount of that great 1980’s-style music being played over the ceiling speakers at the mall lately.  
:: sob ::  
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[The Police Nostalgia Tour.](http://www.policereuniontour.com/) 'Nuff said.

Soon it will be MC Hammer’s turn.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/70 "2008-01-14T04:28:06Z")

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[QUOTE=whistlepig]  
One day I was in Safeway and realized they were playing a Muzak version of, “Smells Like Teen Spirit.”

When I told my 26 yo secretary I thought she was going to cry.  
[/QUOTE]

I felt the same way back in the 80s when I heard a Muzak version of “Breakfast In America.” I felt even more so when I discovered some hip-hop group named Gym Class Heroes released a song called “Cupid’s Chokehold” which is largely based on “Breakfast In America.”

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/71 "2008-01-14T04:35:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose]  
[The Police Nostalgia Tour.](http://www.policereuniontour.com/) 'Nuff said.

Soon it will be MC Hammer’s turn.  
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I’ve been talking about the annual summer Dinosaurs of Rock tours for a while (you know, reuniting bands from the sixties and seventies). Who imagined that it would catch up to me?

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/72 "2008-01-14T10:36:42Z")

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A few things we had in my youth:

Rickets  
Bombs  
Hitler  
Ringworm  
Food Rationing  
Smog…proper smog, none of your pansy stuff 😛

The good old days, my arse

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/73 "2008-01-14T14:36:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Carm6773]  
Really! I was a year old when Nixon resigned, and there are some days that I feel old. I mean, I have a GREAT NIECE. Talk about feeling old!  
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Meh. Nixon resigned on my eighteenth birthday. Best present I ever had. . . .  
And kids know better than to traipse across my lawn. I’ve trained the squirrels to attack on sight.  
Geez. Does anyone even say _traipse_ anymore? Guess it’s time to see if Geritol has a web site.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/74 "2008-01-14T15:19:51Z")

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I was born an old fogey. I had a large collection of 45’s, I used to listen to my mom’s 8-tracks, and I remember the first laser-discs with movies on ‘em. THAT was frickin’ cool, my friends.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/75 "2008-01-14T16:15:06Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
But I was 1 caller off a few times, or so the person answering phones claimed.  
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THe other guy was counting to 99. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/76 "2008-01-14T23:19:13Z")

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Oh, please, I was complaining about whippersnappers in my 20’s. My _early_ 20’s.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/77 "2008-01-15T02:48:00Z")

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[QUOTE=cochrane]  
I felt the same way back in the 80s when I heard a Muzak version of “Breakfast In America.” I felt even more so when I discovered some hip-hop group named Gym Class Heroes released a song called “Cupid’s Chokehold” which is largely based on “Breakfast In America.”  
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I cannnot adequately describe the first time I heard Beatles Muzak in an elevator.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/78 "2008-01-15T03:37:25Z")

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Shoot, when I was in junior high (mid-1960s) I came across an album (vinyl, mind you) at a rummage sale called _The Brothers Four Sing Lennon McCartney_. Naturally I snapped it up. Don’t think _that_ wasn’t “Muzak”.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/79 "2008-01-15T03:48:42Z")

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Once upon a time the timing on gasoline engines was adjusted not by computer, but by loosening a screw on the distributor and rotating it whilst looking at the timing mark on the fly wheel using a strobe light synchronized to the number one cylinder!

I did this. And I did this with both legs hanging inside the engine compartment, since there was a preponderance of space in there at the time.

Hello: My name is Leaffan, and I am a fogey.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-a-fogey/433253/80 "2008-01-15T04:00:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Leaffan]  
And I did this with both legs hanging inside the engine compartment,  
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Hell, being 5’ 3" and 120 lbs wringing wet, I sat on the radiator of a '72 Ford Torino to set the points. 🙂

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