# So I guess I am Voting for Kathy Barnette

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**Created:** [May 13, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-voting-for-kathy-barnette/964368 "2022-05-13T15:35:57Z")\
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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > [@Acsenray](#):
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> > My brother did the opposite. He was so outraged by the idea of Trump being a serious candidate that he voted in the Republican primary to cast a vote for Kasich just on principle.
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> As did I, and I do think that that is a perfectly acceptable reason to cross the aisle. Whether or not those who went over to vote for Trump made a difference, they should feel pretty shitty for having done so.

I did just that today, here in Georgia - I literally held my nose and voted in the Republican primary, both to reward Brad Raffensperger for refusing to commit election fraud on behalf of Trump, and to keep radical right wingers like David Perdue and Jody Hice off the ballot. First time I’ve ever voted for a Republican in my life, and hopefully, the last.

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I vote in the Republicans’ primary pretty regularly, usually to cast votes for saner choices. Repubs in the area will vote for anyone with an R by their name, so I’d prefer it to be someone more palatable. I voted for Ted Cruz in a last-ditch effort to avoid Trump, and in 2010(?) I voted to try to keep Lugar from being primaried by a tea party candidate.

This November, I’ll likely vote for the Republican running for the Indiana 5th, because I find Andre Carson to be a buffoon, and can’t wait for the Indiana Dem Party to put forward a candidate who is at least semi-competent. He’ll still win by 40%.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-voting-for-kathy-barnette/964368/63 "2022-05-15T23:25:26Z")

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I just read a NYT article about Fetterman.

> **[How ‘Just a Dude’ in Shorts Became a Senate Front-Runner](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/14/us/politics/fetterman-pennsylvania-democratic-primary.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DIDm8eiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4INU-wyiWXtpINvo3Sfp01f5bIUVrSgDtrpaBn58fKjk0oserRGIz1ojcG7Ak9DugJk-IFNBC_pzt9RSXLGr3RvSflC1weVp49MRhIVqq3HUXwq2VF_py39l6wa9yVpFlRT8DZyTdvvK4Cx8qK8zGOk-HknQ-W-hfWjzSmNGc-uhAJF0UUQSaOSs5tWUs69pcO8cVOLL8K3Mgesn9iLYRDg94PdvjRs1xF8WPyeIc4fOaogeMycG22_wyCK1S2bjFuW6wP10oI6iEicP2yAxnSonJOFVwnESa6w&smid=url-share)**
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> John Fetterman has used his shorts-and-hoodie image to connect with Pennsylvania voters in the Democratic Senate primary.

Based on that story, this guy is going to play really big in rural areas. I haven’t read that much about Barnette, but she seems like she’d attract lots of city voters. Or would except for her embrace of the MAGA/Trump Stolen Election weltanschauung.

It looks like you guys in Pennsylvania are doing things backwards.

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I see he just had a (small) stroke. Bad timing.

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Oh dear. Sounds like recovery is going well.

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> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#):
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> I see he just had a (small) stroke. Bad timing.

Who’s he?

(please don’t use pronouns without obvious antecedents)

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Who’s he?
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> (please don’t use pronouns without obvious antecedents)

Fetterman, antecedent anteceded in the previous post.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-guess-i-am-voting-for-kathy-barnette/964368/68 "2022-05-16T11:22:21Z")

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The guy (Fetterman) is also 6’8 and weighs about 350, so that can’t help. He also has two Masters, so he’s not “really” blue collar as some count it.

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Yeah, but he’s a big beefy white guy with a shiny head and chin fringe, so regarding blue collar, “he plays one on TV.”

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > It’s a valuable strategy to try and change things from within rather than from without. If the OP is still holding out hope to try and get back the Republican Party he used to agree with, it can make sense to stick with them.⁢
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> Why? Is he a Republican operative, lobbyist, or pollster? Does he hold office as a Republican?

Most likely because he supported the way the Republicans were before, and knows the Democrats will never be that. If you’re conservative, voting Democrat is a hard pill to swallow, as the party is pretty anti-conservative (even if it is right wing).

I would do the same thing if Democrats went rogue. I’m not going to suddenly switch to being a Republican as long as they are still anti-progressive. I would stick it out, trying to revive what once was, as I’d think that would have a better chance.

And that’s with a party that is only mediocre on progressivism.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> The guy (Fetterman) is also 6’8 and weighs about 350

Actually, he slimmed down. I met him a few years ago at an event in Pittsburgh. I’d met him the night before at a mutual friend’s home. At the event he greeted me like an old friend, really impressing the group I was with.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Actually, he slimmed down.

I’m glad to hear it. Politics can be a stressful job at the best of times. I can’t image how hard it is to run a campaign.

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OK, have to come clean and say I did it. I voted for Barnette, the nuttiest of the nutty. My high-risk plan is for her to win the Republican nomination so that she will be defeated in November. If she gets elected, may God have mercy on my soul.

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I hope your plan works. Perhaps it is the best strategic move, but I remember thinking Donnie was the weakest Repub in 2016 so be careful what you wish for.

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I read a brief overview of their backgrounds and beliefs, and I’d have had a hard time deciding which was the most idiotic.

I was voting in the Democratic primary, anyway. Interestingly, the Republicans had people out front of the polling place handing out information, but the Democrats did not.

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There were nice Republican folks handing out flyers at the door when my wife and I went in. All three emphasized that their candidate was a Trump supporter. I gave all three candidates a pass.

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All of the Republican candidates here in Oregon are playing the “I’m Trumpier than thou!” game. It used to be I would read the voter’s pamphlet to look for the rare nutcases. I don’t bother any more.

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Interestingly, the Republicans had people out front of the polling place handing out information, but the Democrats did not.

> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#):
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> There were nice Republican folks handing out flyers at the door when my wife and I went in.

There isn’t some rule about no electioneering within a certain distance of polling places? I’m pretty sure California has such a rule.

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> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#):
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> There were nice Republican folks handing out flyers at the door when my wife and I went in.

Where I vote there was nobody. Two women worked inside, but they must have carpooled, as there was only one car in the lot. I actually wondered if I’d come on the wrong day.

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> There isn’t some rule about no electioneering within a certain distance of polling places? I’m pretty sure California has such a rule.

As I read the law, in Pa., it is 10 feet from the polling place.

But what is the polling place? The room in the library where the election machines are set up, or the library itself? Where I live, I recall campaigning right in the library. Don’t know about yesterday, as my wife and I now vote by mail.

In person voting here can require walking through a gauntlet of polite to pushy neighbors. I disliked it.

TV ads are also annoying. Could KB have underperformed her polling due to all the last-minute TV ads?

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