# So....I have to ask...anyone leaving the country? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 5, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285 "2008-11-05T16:19:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/41 "2008-11-05T22:15:05Z")
Polls are better posted in IMHO (where you will next find this thread). ---
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/42 "2008-11-05T22:18:54Z")
What’s more likely? Total mesmerisation. Or a failure of perception on my part. I just think quoting iconic statesmen doesn’t put him in the same league as them. He spouts the inspiring words of Dr. King and people ooh and ahh. Shouting “Yes we can!” is just paraphrasing “I have a dream!”. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/43 "2008-11-05T22:20:17Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > his supporters seemed totally mesmerised. We’re tired. We were up past our bedtime celebrating last night, and then we woke up at 6am and couldn’t get back to sleep because we wanted to see more election news. It was kind of like being a kid on Christmas morning. And we’re so happy, it’s holding off the cranky that we’d normally get with so little sleep. At least that’s why I probably seem a little mesmerized today. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/44 "2008-11-05T22:39:06Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > his supporters seemed totally mesmerised. Don’t look into Obama’s eyes, **jimpatro**! _Don’t look into his eyes!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/45 "2008-11-05T22:45:53Z")
😃 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/46 "2008-11-06T00:34:45Z")
Of course not. The sort of temper tantrum that involves stomping your feet and screaming about leaving the country is a liberal conceit. I for one welcome our new socialist overlords. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/47 "2008-11-06T00:37:23Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Of course not. The sort of temper tantrum that involves stomping your feet and screaming about leaving the country is a liberal conceit. I think that dickishness transcends party lines. > [@](#): > > I for one welcome our new socialist overlords. I don’t think Bernie Sanders counts as an overlord, and he’s the only socialist currently in the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/48 "2008-11-06T00:41:06Z")
I can’t leave now. I used up my one free political move when I came _here_ to escape the Harper administration. (I’m kidding of course…sorta) ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/49 "2008-11-06T01:02:20Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Of course not. The sort of temper tantrum that involves stomping your feet and screaming about leaving the country is a liberal conceit. I for one welcome our new socialist overlords. We’d have an easier time of it. Canada is congenial to liberals, nearby, AFAIK a pretty decent place to live, and you could presumably get by there (except in Quebec) without learning any language other than English. I suspect if Canada were English-speaking, a decent place to live, and where it is now, only its politics were more conservative than ours, it would be the conservatives who would say this sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/50 "2008-11-06T01:10:27Z")
I spent two years living in a former Eastern Bloc nation. I’m an American and I didn’t actually live there DURING communism, but yeah, I got a real good idea of what it’s like to live in a communist nation from a thousand stories and anecdotes. Nothing I have heard from Obama even remotely resembles communism. I am totally baffled by this assertion. BTW, a lot of Bulgarians would go back to communism in a second if it were feasible. To hear them tell it, communism beats the hell out of democracy any day. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/51 "2008-11-06T01:36:02Z")
> [@Stealth\_Potato](#): > > Why would anybody leave if Bush pulled something like that? Me, I’d be grabbing my rifles and looking for the signup sheet for Obama’s civilian defense force. 😛 Does the FBI know you plan on attacking [Mayor Bloomberg](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/23/bloomberg.third.term/)?😉 ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/52 "2008-11-06T01:37:38Z")
I most likely am leaving the country in the spring, bound for either one or two years in New Zealand. Granted, it has absolutely nothing to do with the results of the election and most everything to do with my failure to grow up and grow out of the urge to Go Somewhere Else, but I probably will be leaving the country. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/53 "2008-11-06T01:40:42Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > What’s more likely? Total mesmerisation. Or a failure of perception on my part. I’m just spitballin’ here, understand, but I’d say that “failure of perception” is a lot more likely than mass hypnosis. Occam’s Razor, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/54 "2008-11-06T08:14:12Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Singapore? China. They don’t need no steekin’ regulation in China. Must be a libertarian paradise. Just don’t brush your teeth. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/55 "2008-11-06T09:12:40Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Singapore? Russia? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/56 "2008-11-06T12:59:52Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > I know what communism and socialism are. No you don’t. And neither does anyone else who calls Obama a socialist, communist, or Marxist. > [@Wikipedia](#): > > Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society. Having the government control the means of production is radically different from income redistribution. Egalitarianism of the socialist variety (where there are \*no \*wealth inequalities) is radically different from having a progressive taxation system. ---
**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/57 "2008-11-06T13:56:30Z")
Just for grins, have you seen [this](http://slatev.com/player.html?id=1842856410)? ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/58 "2008-11-06T14:16:04Z")
> [@UnwrittenNocturne](#): > > Actually you have no idea what communism and socialism are if you think Obama is anything like either one. And the question remains - where would someone on the right go? I suppose there are still a few fascist states where they would feel comfortable Russia,most of the Sub Saharan states,Syria,Saudi Arabia,Iran would all feel quite homey to a disgruntledright wing conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/59 "2008-11-06T16:11:03Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > I’m not particularly on the right. Definitely liberal on social issues. Just not an Obama supporter. Someone who makes more money than someone else should not be forced to pay a higher tax rate. It should be equal for all. People need to face that they only make so much money in life. They don’t like it, get another job. Get more education to get a better paying job. They shouldn’t elect somebody to take more from the rich just to pass on to them. Conservatives are so concerned about the concept of someone undeserving possibly getting some of their money, I honestly believe that, given the choice, many would actually prefer to make 250k taxed at 30% over making 400k taxed at 39%. Because they just can’t stand the idea that some people might take advantage of the system and get away with free money. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285/60 "2008-11-06T16:26:49Z")
Not leaving the country, but I _am_ leaving Alaska. I was planning to do so next spring anyway, but was having some regrets/second thoughts up until this election, when the people here decided that a convicted felon and a guy who is under investigation by the FBI are perfectly suited to sit in WDC and represent our state. I’m so far down the highway mentally that this place is already becoming a distant memory… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-have-to-ask-anyone-leaving-the-country/471285.md?page=4)