# So I just saw Iron Man (unboxed minor spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283 "2008-10-03T07:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/21 "2008-10-03T15:46:59Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Did it bother anybody else that at the end the giant explosion killed the bad guy but didn’t even scratch Stark or Pepper. Wasn’t Pepper standing in the building that blew up real good? This was a point of confusion for my roommate. Best guess is that as soon as Pepper hit the button she ran like hell, either outside or into a safe room. It wouldn’t be implausible for a reactor like that to have one nearby, I should think. Also, there’s a deleted scene on the DVD that has both Stark and Stane alive after the blast, with one last villainous monologue from Stane before he fell into the middle of the reactor. So it may have been that the blast just knocked him out, he fell forward, and only died when he crashed into the reactor. I do think it was odd that the blast should have been so nonlethal, given how Pepper was freaking out and Stark expected it to annihilate the roof. Isn’t his math never wrong? He should have been vaporized, being directly over it, rather than merely knocked aside. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/22 "2008-10-03T15:47:57Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > I should have quoted that better. The movie seems to be based off of the Ultimates Universe rather than mainstream Marvel Universe. In the mainstream, Nick Fury is a WWII veteran that took some formula that makes him age slowly so he’s still a kick ass guy 60 plus years later. In the ultimate universe AFAIK he’s a kick ass black guy that wasn’t in WWII. Hence when Sam Jackson showed up thats what I thought. I’m betting most comic book fans thought that too. Nick Fury is the one thing in the entire movie that has anything to do with the Ultimate Universe. Movie Iron Man is wildly different from Ultimate Iron Man (who has a completely bizarre origin and a brain tumor rather than a heart condition); he is based on the 616 Marvel Universe version. The movie is not based on the Ultimate Universe. ---
**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/23 "2008-10-03T16:35:09Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > I still think the secret identity part was dumb for him to do. Stark seemed to be an extreme personality but not a glory hound. I would think that he would get more of a kick out of being a hero and keeping his identity secret than letting everyone know he was behind the helmet. Still, I enjoyed the movie. Iron Man was one of the first mainstream heroes (at least in Marvel) to use lethal force on purpise in the comics. Thats why I liked him as a kid. (not because he killed a few guy, but because he didn’t do the “I’ll never kill” thing and then feel guilty for 12 issues). Granted he never killed someone on purpose or in cold blood, but he didn’t seem to be too upset about it either. \* Here’s the thing about the ‘secret identity reveal’: it’s a display of Tony’s bravado, yes, but it also helps illustrate how _alone_ he is. Spider-Man has a secret identity because he has loved ones who would be in danger if his enemies knew who he was. But Tony Stark doesn’t _have_ a normal life to protect. He spends more time with robots and computers than he does with human beings. His only two flesh-and-blood friends are Rhodey and Pepper, who he _pays_ to hang around him. Tony’s so isolated that revealing his secret identity puts almost no one in danger. As for Tony Stark’s bodycount, let’s see, there’s: Titanium Man II from _Armor Wars_. Malin from _Extremis_. It seems like there’s gotta be a least a couple more. He did NOT kill Blizzard I (Gregor Shapanka) however – that was Iron Man 2020. Iron Monger (Obadiah Stane) in the comics suicided. Blacklash was beaten to death by the Sentient Armor. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/24 "2008-10-03T16:36:29Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > This was a point of confusion for my roommate. Best guess is that as soon as Pepper hit the button she ran like hell, either outside or into a safe room. … Run like hell? In those heels? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/25 "2008-10-03T16:43:11Z")
> [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](#): > > Run like hell? In those heels? She is a very rare woman. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/26 "2008-10-03T16:54:20Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Stark’s coming clean about being Iron Man was one of the things I liked best about the movie. I have to agree. In addition to what you said, it’s just his personality to be blunt and brazen. He doesn’t mess around–he says exactly what he means and doesn’t beat around the bush. And he was pretty obviously bursting to tell people. I’m not sure he could have kept it a secret if he wanted to. Sure, he could have just gone along with SHIELD, but when did he ever do something besides what he himself wanted? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/27 "2008-10-03T16:59:02Z")
> [@Jayn\_Newell](#): > > I have to agree. In addition to what you said, it’s just his personality to be blunt and brazen. He doesn’t mess around–he says exactly what he means and doesn’t beat around the bush. And he was pretty obviously bursting to tell people. I’m not sure he could have kept it a secret if he wanted to. > > Sure, he could have just gone along with SHIELD, but when did he ever do something besides what he himself wanted? I don’t think movie-Tony is quite that brazen, at least not at the end. Early-movie Stark might have done kept his id secret for the fun of proving that he was the smartest; he’d have treated it as a game. But by the end of the movie he’d seen graphically that his life wasn’t a game. He’d have kept the secret if it were both the responsible and intelligent move; but between Pepper cutting him down as she tied his tie, and the convenience of the rushed press conference, he figured out that going for cover story was neither ethical nor smart. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/28 "2008-10-03T17:13:05Z")
I just watched it on Tuesday, and I could swear she was standing outside in the street when all the glass blew out… into the street, so okay, that probably wasn’t a good place to stop. And, being one of the few people to have learned the superhero’s secret identity is a dangerous place to be at the end of the movie. I has a question: In the convoy attack scene at the beginning of the movie, the guy who wanted a picture jumped out, slammed the door, yelled “STAY HERE!”, turned around, and a great many holes got punched simultaneously through him and the side of the hummvee, which made for a great shot, but I’m wondering, is there a weapon that actually does that? Would a frag grenade do that, or a claymore loaded with buckshot, without knocking the vehicle on its side, or were we looking at pure Hollywood there? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/29 "2008-10-03T17:16:55Z")
My guess is shrapnel. Keep in mind, though, the terrorists had Stark Technology weapons, and anything’s possible there. ---
**Author:** ![Ro\_Carter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7feea3/32.png) [@Ro\_Carter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ro_Carter)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/30 "2008-10-03T17:43:05Z")
I adored the movie. The only moment that pulled me out of it was when they showed Pepper running like hell across the floor, which was a grate. Just a few moments earlier, when they showed her outside, she had been wearing high heels with thin heels on them, by far thin enough that there is no way EVER she could run across that floor and not break something. They could have at least laid down rubber mats… those wouldn’t be all that out of place in a room with a lot of (what I assume is) electricity from the reactor. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/31 "2008-10-03T18:26:10Z")
I know plenty of people who can run in high heels. I’m not one of them, but it is done. ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/32 "2008-10-03T18:29:16Z")
But the point was running in heels on grates. The heels were thin enough to get caught in the grates after a few steps. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/33 "2008-10-03T18:44:04Z")
Ah, another thought that occurred to me about the wisdom of trying to maintain a secret identity: it’s a little hard to explain the glowing reactor in your chest to your latest paramour if you’re not Ironman. He’d have to cut _way_ back on one night stands with reporters… ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/34 "2008-10-03T18:54:40Z")
You know one of the very very few things that bothered me about that movie? Why did he suddenly have holes cut in most of his t-shirts for the reactor? I mean, I know I saw at least one where it was only outlined, but the rest it definitely was a hole in the shirt. Why? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/35 "2008-10-03T18:57:24Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > You know one of the very very few things that bothered me about that movie? Why did he suddenly have holes cut in most of his t-shirts for the reactor? I mean, I know I saw at least one where it was only outlined, but the rest it definitely was a hole in the shirt. > Why? Once he got seriously into the development of the MK2 suit, he needed to have access to the reactor to power whatever he was testing. When he first got back, and when he was going out in public, he had shirts that covered it. What I wanna know is how did Obie know how to make the exact gadget to cut through the shirt and extract the reactor? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/36 "2008-10-03T18:59:56Z")
Yeah, I can buy that, but…so he cut holes in all his tees? Why not just not wear any? I’d rather see him sans shirt anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/37 "2008-10-03T19:03:13Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Ah, another thought that occurred to me about the wisdom of trying to maintain a secret identity: it’s a little hard to explain the glowing reactor in your chest to your latest paramour if you’re not Ironman. He’d have to cut _way_ back on one night stands with reporters… I think you got it in one. And now that he’s got badass cred, his success should be even higher. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/38 "2008-10-03T19:41:26Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I has a question: In the convoy attack scene at the beginning of the movie, the guy who wanted a picture jumped out, slammed the door, yelled “STAY HERE!”, turned around, and a great many holes got punched simultaneously through him and the side of the hummvee, which made for a great shot, but I’m wondering, is there a weapon that actually does that? Humvees aren’t armored, generally. It wouldn’t take some super-powerful weapon to punch holes in the side… and whatever goes through the door also usually goes through the guy sitting next to it… ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/39 "2008-10-03T19:44:58Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I think you got it in one. And now that he’s got badass cred, his success should be even higher. The impression I got was that Stark’s success rate with the ladies was so high that the only way he could get more tail would be to switch hit. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/40 "2008-10-03T19:47:51Z")
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