# So I just saw Iron Man (unboxed minor spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283 "2008-10-03T07:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/81 "2008-10-06T15:23:16Z")
> [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](#): > > Sorry, but this is nonsense. > > There is a reason there are no real life conspiracy nutjobs claiming, for example, that Michael Phelps can’t swim really, really fast. Why? Because it is too easy to prove Michael Phelps can swim really, really fast. Put him in a pool, grab your stopwatch and have him swim. > > If someone doubted Tony Stark was Iron Man and he wanted to prove he really was, all he would have to do is put on the suit in front of them and do something only Iron Man could do. Like, maybe, pick them up and fly them from California to Afghanistan in a few hours, or something. > > I’m really not getting what you seem to think is a problem, here. There was someone on this very board who claimed that Phelps won with the help of the company doing the timing, as part of a vast corporate conspiracy to sell watches and pump up the summer games. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/82 "2008-10-06T15:24:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Behind… _WALL-E_, perchance? I only saw the first few minutes of WALL-E; Mrs. R. got sick and we had to leave. I was thinking THE DARK KNIGHT. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/83 "2008-10-06T15:49:19Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I only saw the first few minutes of WALL-E; Mrs. R. got sick and we had to leave. I was thinking THE DARK KNIGHT. Not even close. Wall-E was one of the best movies I have ever seen. It helped that it was practically a silent movie for huge chunks. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/84 "2008-10-06T15:51:28Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Not even close. Wall-E was one of the best movies I have ever seen. It helped that it was practically a silent movie for huge chunks. As i saw very little of it, I obviously have no opinion. I was only talking about movies I myself saw. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/85 "2008-10-06T18:28:00Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > I should have quoted that better. The movie seems to be based off of the Ultimates Universe rather than mainstream Marvel Universe. In the mainstream, Nick Fury is a WWII veteran that took some formula that makes him age slowly so he’s still a kick ass guy 60 plus years later. In the ultimate universe AFAIK he’s a kick ass black guy that wasn’t in WWII. Hence when Sam Jackson showed up thats what I thought. I’m betting most comic book fans thought that too. Actually, the Ultimate universe just identified Nick Fury as a WWII veteran and an early super-soldier formula lab rat. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/86 "2008-10-06T18:45:52Z")
The only serious gripe I’ve had that hasn’t been covered. He can have a hole big enough for a soup can carved into his chest to hold the reactor, but he can’t hire a qualified surgeon to remove the shrapnel once he gets back to Western civilization? What? He likes having a built in flashlight? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/87 "2008-10-06T18:49:55Z")
> [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](#): > > Sorry, but this is nonsense. > > There is a reason there are no real life conspiracy nutjobs claiming, for example, that Michael Phelps can’t swim really, really fast. Why? Because it is too easy to prove Michael Phelps can swim really, really fast. Put him in a pool, grab your stopwatch and have him swim. How much money do they stand to make off such a thing, however? And why do you eliminate the possibility that they’d claim it _wasn’t_ natural ability on Phelps’ part and not that he’s “juiced”? (Lots of people have claimed that Lance Armstrong was “juicing” every time he won the Tour de France, despite all the drug testing he had to undergo which came up clean.) > [@](#): > > If someone doubted Tony Stark was Iron Man and he wanted to prove he really was, all he would have to do is put on the suit in front of them and do something only Iron Man could do. Like, maybe, pick them up and fly them from California to Afghanistan in a few hours, or something.. Welcome to the world of Whack-A-Mole. Once he flies one guy, someone else will claim that its BS and demand a ride as well. Pretty soon, Stark is spending all his time flying people around and not fighting crime. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/88 "2008-10-06T18:50:29Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > The only serious gripe I’ve had that hasn’t been covered. > > He can have a hole big enough for a soup can carved into his chest to hold the reactor, but he can’t hire a qualified surgeon to remove the shrapnel once he gets back to Western civilization? > > What? He likes having a built in flashlight? I think I responded to that one above, though I agree it’s a plot hole. Upon his return to the States, Stark was a wee bit irrational. He had just had his culpability in the violent deaths of many innocents thrust into his face, and he wanted to make up for that personally and ASAP–which meant he needed the armor. Having heart surgery and the required recovery would have slowed him down. And yes, I realize he did other thigns while he was working on the Mark II armor, but that was mainly because various phases of the process forced down time on him (hence his evening out with Pepper) or he wanted outside advice (his talk with Rhodey). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/89 "2008-10-06T18:51:58Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > …We have telescopes that can see things we left on the moon. Cool! Really? Care to supply a link? I suspect you’re right… but I’ve never seen any such photos. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/90 "2008-10-06T19:40:04Z")
Actually, did anyone have any doubt that the Iron Man armor was made by Stark Enterprises? I mean since it was a super-advanced experimental battle armor design battling in front of the Stark Enterprises HQ and all? Whether Stark himself actually wears the armor seems rather incidental to me. The armor has the power, not the wearer. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/91 "2008-10-06T19:43:35Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Whether Stark himself actually wears the armor seems rather incidental to me. The armor has the power, not the wearer. You forgetting about the nuclear reactor stuck in Stark’s chest? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/92 "2008-10-06T19:56:32Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Actually, did anyone have any doubt that the Iron Man armor was made by Stark Enterprises? I mean since it was a super-advanced experimental battle armor design battling in front of the Stark Enterprises HQ and all? That was my impression as well, particularly as the battle was obviously over Stark tech. The fact that SHIELD felt it best to come p with a cover story acknowledging that Iron Man was an SI employee implied that eeryone felt tht fact so obvious that it wasn’t worth disputing. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/93 "2008-10-06T20:07:53Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > The only serious gripe I’ve had that hasn’t been covered. > > He can have a hole big enough for a soup can carved into his chest to hold the reactor, but he can’t hire a qualified surgeon to remove the shrapnel once he gets back to Western civilization? What about this one: He has a hole big enough for a soup can into his chest to hold the reactor that he needs to stay alive … that’s exactly where his heart should be? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/94 "2008-10-06T20:11:59Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > What about this one: He has a hole big enough for a soup can into his chest to hold the reactor that he needs to stay alive … that’s exactly where his heart should be? Like the Grinch, Stark has a heart three sizes too small. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/95 "2008-10-06T20:13:10Z")
I think he kept it as both a symbol and a punishment and a reminder. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/96 "2008-10-06T20:16:27Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I think he kept it as both a symbol and a punishment and a reminder. Anaamika, do you mean he kept the original & lesser chestpiece power supply as symbol, punishment, and reminder, or that he forewent surgery for those reasons? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/97 "2008-10-06T20:22:46Z")
He kept the lesser chestpiece because it was a present from Pepper. So I’m guessing she meant the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/98 "2008-10-07T00:07:59Z")
The one Pepper gave him ran out of power during the fight with Iron Monger, right? Then Iron Monger was destroyed, right? How is Tony’s little reactor still functioning? Or could it only power him, but not the suit? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/99 "2008-10-07T00:11:51Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > The one Pepper gave him ran out of power during the fight with Iron Monger, right? Then Iron Monger was destroyed, right? > > How is Tony’s little reactor still functioning? Or could it only power him, but not the suit? Clearly he built another one. I can easily imagine him telling Jarvis, as he was flying out, to begin fabrication of at least one extra chestpiece (and Jarvis replying, with polite snark, that he should have authorized that weeks earlier). ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283/100 "2008-10-07T09:37:41Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Of course. > > A nerd lives in his mom’s basement > > A math whiz lives in a mansion and has millions of dollars [What about this guy?](http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/political-pictures-bill-gates-microsift-sexy-attractive.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-just-saw-iron-man-unboxed-minor-spoilers/466283.md?page=6)