# So, I met someone's slave the other day.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 21, 2002, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970 "2002-11-21T17:06:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/1 "2002-11-21T17:06:23Z")

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I went out with some friends and one of their other friends shows up with his little asian slaveboy in tow. I don’t think being asian matters except that he is going to go back to Hong Kong in December to pack his stuff and move to the states to be a full time dog.

The little asian boy’s “name” was Doghood. Like childhood but with a dog instead. Boy is really a misnomer since he appeared to be in his 20’s but socially he is still a boy even though he doesn’t appear to weigh more than 100 lbs and is 5’4" or so. Anyway, it came out that he thinks he is a reincarnated spirit of a chihuahua.

He went around my friends apartment barking and scratching in middle of dinner and eventually curled up in his master’s lap. It was pretty strange. The master guy (I found him just generally creepy) said that he stuck a few hundred needles through his skin the other day when he was bad. He said they were like giving him a bunch of temporary piercings. He was hoping to eventually get enough temporary ones to lift him off the ground by them. :eep:

WTF is wrong with these people? I feel bad about not really saying anything about it but I feel putting my sexual morals on other people is completely wrong. At least it seemed consensual but damn was it weird.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/2 "2002-11-21T17:09:35Z")

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different strokes for different folks.

Some people get bored with vanilla.

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/3 "2002-11-21T17:12:42Z")

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Sorry but on the 1-10 wierdness scale this only gets a 7

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**Author:** ![NPavelka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/edb3f5/32.png) [@NPavelka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NPavelka)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/4 "2002-11-21T17:16:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by CRorex \*  
> \*\*Sorry but on the 1-10 wierdness scale this only gets a 7 \*\*

Really trying not to imagine what would rate a 9!!! :eek:

Well this does rate about a 9.0 on my weird-shit-o-meter

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/5 "2002-11-21T17:19:55Z")

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Still, even if it rated a 24 on your wierdness meter, it wouldn’t mean it was wrong or should be stopped, which I think dorkusmalkorus is implying (I may be wrong).

BDSM is more prevalent than you probably suspect, and if they’re so willing to tell you the lifestyle and name and location of their sub, i’ll guarantee you it’s consensual, so what’s the problem?

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**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/6 "2002-11-21T17:22:45Z")

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I wasn’t implying that it should be stopped or was wrong for them. The thing was it seemed consensual. I would never do it and kicked myself when I was about to say something about it being off.

The problem is that I found the humiliation aspect of it just wrong. How low can you sink before you hit rock bottom? Obviously becoming a dog/slave isn’t low enough for some people.

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**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/7 "2002-11-21T17:24:37Z")

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Addendum: Damnations, subway perv’s aren’t even rock bottom either.

As for BDSM being prevalent, I already know that. I have in my experience been to many of the various BDSM events both locally and nationally. I have seen dogs before but they were all masterless at the time. Even with them, I couldn’t imagine them actually believing they were a dog or becoming a dog simply for the humiliation aspect of it.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/8 "2002-11-21T17:26:34Z")

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Well, as many people know, I am VERY into humiliation. That’s mostly why I think I’m a sub. I get off on verbal humiliation and abuse, name calling, treating me like a dog.

So, like I said, different strokes for different folks. I didn’t mean it in a snarky way, just facts are facts.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/9 "2002-11-21T17:29:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
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> BDSM is more prevalent than you probably suspect, and if they’re so willing to tell you the lifestyle and name and location of their sub, i’ll guarantee you it’s consensual, so what’s the problem? \*\*

I’d be a little uncomfortable if a guest of mine barked like a dog and curled up in the lap of his “master.” There is a proper time and a place to act out whatever fantasies or way of life you wish to have. At someone else’s apartment in front of strange people isn’t the proper time. Uh, unless it is one of those parties I guess.

Marc

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/10 "2002-11-21T17:32:25Z")

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What is it we’re talking about here? THe fact that he’s a sexual submissive into humiliation or manifesting the behaviors of a dog?

Because yes, for ME, acting like an actual dog is odd. But the OP title says SLAVE and that, for some reason, I have no problem with, and wouldn’t be embarrassed to act submissive or slave like in front of anyone.  
OK, my parents.

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**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/11 "2002-11-21T17:34:14Z")

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I only said slave because he is “owned” by his master. He also acts the part of a dog 24/7 according to his master. Now that is strange.

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/12 "2002-11-21T17:46:53Z")

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What’s wrong with strange?

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/13 "2002-11-21T17:48:41Z")

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Right. The whole thing I have with your rant is the comment:

What is wrong with these people?

the answer is NOTHING. They are into different stuff than you are. It doesn’t make them WRONG.

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**Author:** ![NPavelka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/edb3f5/32.png) [@NPavelka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NPavelka)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/14 "2002-11-21T17:50:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*Still, even if it rated a 24 on your wierdness meter, it wouldn’t mean it was wrong or should be stopped, which I think dorkusmalkorus is implying (I may be wrong).
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> BDSM is more prevalent than you probably suspect, and if they’re so willing to tell you the lifestyle and name and location of their sub, i’ll guarantee you it’s consensual, so what’s the problem? \*\*

I have no problem with it at all… as I said I just think it is weird, very weird. And yes, the reincarnated dog thing not the sexual sub. The physical ownership and needles were a bit odd too.

I could care less what people do but I don’t expect them to tell me that I shouldn’t think it’s weird. We all have very diffrent standards of weird… the dog and needles pushed my standards of weird.

Just wondering what everyone would think if he was dooing this to an actuial dog (the thing with the needles)? Dogs will love an abusive master almost just as much as they will love a very kind one.

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**Author:** ![Siemsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Siemsi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siemsi)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/15 "2002-11-21T17:50:32Z")

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Are you serious? **smacks head with hand** Dog-man-slave!?!?

Doghood?!?!? WTF!?!?

Everyone is different I guess.

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**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/16 "2002-11-21T17:53:13Z")

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You can say nothing is wrong with them all you want but for me once they take away the humanity of the person there is a greater wrong than you are willing to look into. Doghood isn’t an elaborate type of roleplay. He lives like a dog just as you live as a human. That is where it is wrong.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/17 "2002-11-21T17:54:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> **Well, as many people know, I am VERY into humiliation. That’s mostly why I think I’m a sub. I get off on verbal humiliation and abuse, name calling, treating me like a dog.**

I cannot wrap my mind around this statement whatsoever. Nope, nope, nope.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/18 "2002-11-21T17:54:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by NPavelka \*  
> \*\*  
> Just wondering what everyone would think if he was dooing this to an actuial dog (the thing with the needles)? Dogs will love an abusive master almost just as much as they will love a very kind one. \*\*

Well obviously, if he was doing it to a real dog, that would mean the dog could not give consent and so I’d regard that as criminal and indeed abusive.

The thing about D/s that several million people don’t get is that a) it’s consensual and b) the sub does have a lot of power.

If i’m all tied up on a bed and someone is threatening to set me on fire, I have the ability to say ‘no’, get it?

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/19 "2002-11-21T17:55:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*Well, as many people know, I am VERY into humiliation. That’s mostly why I think I’m a sub. I get off on verbal humiliation and abuse, name calling, treating me like a dog. \*\*

That’s awful! You’re subhuman!

Happy? 😃

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**Author:** ![Siemsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Siemsi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siemsi)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-met-someones-slave-the-other-day/137970/20 "2002-11-21T17:56:01Z")

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Fine,

Let them be freaks if they want to. But please do it in the privacy of your own home. Not some friend’s apartment.

It’s the same for everyone. No matter what your sexual preferace is, or how you like to “get your freak on”.

Just do that shit in private, okay? Thanks, Buh- bye!

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