# So I saw two guys holding hands at Costco today... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 27, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607 "2015-06-27T06:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/41 "2015-06-29T01:36:06Z")
I was never comfortable holding hands or kissing in public, even in the Castro, and I wanted to be, but then I’ve always been fucked up about a lot of stuff. The Pride Festival has ended here, I should go see if I can find any money before the street sweepers start. > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > That said, I would _think_ the same “good for you” as Daffyd does, but because it should be seen as perfectly mundane the biggest compliment I can pay them is to treat it as no big thing. You are right that it shouldn’t be a big deal, but it still is. I had some crap thrown my way in the past, a bit of it from my own family. It could have been worst, so I’m lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/42 "2015-06-29T02:52:50Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > If someone stopped me and said something similar, I’d find it more condescending than creepy…but yes, I’d prefer they not say anything to me. That about sums up my thoughts when I read the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/43 "2015-06-29T04:44:49Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > Holding hands at Costco? Why wasn’t one of them pushing the big ass cart and the other one heaving boxes into it? How the heck did they do it? > > And yes, I wouldn’t have said anything either. I would have thought “good on you, now get out of my way!” > > I’m not a happy camper at big box stores, sorry. Luckily they were outside… If they’d been inside holding hands in my way while they were shoving their way in to get free samples, I don’t think I would have been thinking how great it was! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/44 "2015-06-29T04:47:32Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > That about sums up my thoughts when I read the OP. Wow, I’m amazed how many people seem to think it was creepy to say something… I guess I AM from a different generation… Considering the only thing anyone ever said to me when I was holding hands in public was “Stupid fa\*\*ot!”… Now get off of my Gay lawn! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/45 "2015-06-29T06:47:39Z")
> [@Dibbs](#): > > The American Psychiatric Association up until 1973 said it was a disorder. While I have nothing against gay folks, one can’t deny that there’s a big numbers game going on in this construct we call society. If you think it’s still a mental disorder, show it scientifically, the same way they scientifically showed it wasn’t. Show the clinical data that shows that homosexuality leads to mental distress or causes action that harm one’s self or others. That’s the bare minimum to be a mental disorder. Yes, they were influenced by society–in calling homosexuality a problem. Then they saw gay people could be as mentally healthy as anyone else, so they dropped it. It’s also completely “untreatable,” and such treatments actually can lead to mental unwellness. Hence meaning you need to leave well enough alone and not try to “cure” it. This idea that “mental disorder” means “things I think are crazy” is just bad psychology. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/46 "2015-06-29T06:49:57Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > If someone stopped me and said something similar, I’d find it more condescending than creepy…but yes, I’d prefer they not say anything to me. Finding it strange or offputting I get, but why would it be condescending? I can only imagine that if you add more to what the OP said. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/47 "2015-06-29T08:03:16Z")
> [@Daffyd](#): > > Wow, I’m amazed how many people seem to think it was creepy to say something… I guess I AM from a different generation… Considering the only thing anyone ever said to me when I was holding hands in public was “Stupid fa\*\*ot!”… > > Now get off of my Gay lawn! Around the neighborhoods where I hang, same-sex hand holding is common. Everyone has been going around congratulating each other this weekend, so your comment would be nothing more than fitting right in! Pride parade was today and it was spectacular. One of my workplaces had a float and lots of people, staff and volunteers, either rode it or walked with it today. Here’s an article with pics (general pics, not work) from [Time Out Chicago.](http://www.timeout.com/chicago/lgbt/photos-from-the-2015-chicago-pride-parade) ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/48 "2015-06-29T09:01:07Z")
> [@Daffyd](#): > > Wow, I’m amazed how many people seem to think it was creepy to say something… I guess I AM from a different generation… Considering the only thing anyone ever said to me when I was holding hands in public was “Stupid fa\*\*ot!”… > > Now get off of my Gay lawn! When I think about it, the fact that those of us from a later generation wouldn’t feel the need to approach them is a good sign, it is evidence that we have come a long way and are headed in the right direction. And anyway, If the worst thing that a same-sex couples have to put with is a well-meaning handshake and a verbal pat on the back…well, that’s hardly a bad world to live in is it? ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/49 "2015-06-29T09:21:04Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > When I think about it, the fact that those of us from a later generation wouldn’t feel the need to approach them is a good sign, it is evidence that we have come a long way and are headed in the right direction. > > And anyway, If the worst thing that a same-sex couples have to put with is a well-meaning handshake and a verbal pat on the back…well, that’s hardly a bad world to live in is it? Especially when it’s from another gay dude. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607/50 "2015-06-29T13:42:07Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > If someone stopped me and said something similar, I’d find it more condescending than creepy…but yes, I’d prefer they not say anything to me. I’d argue it might be condescending if a straight person came up and said it. But another gay person? I think that’s just fine… Around here (Albany NY) I see almost no gay couples holding hands. Lesbians galore. They are less shy, I guess? And of course generally lesbians are more accepted. But we are a medium town with kind of a small town mentality. I hardly even see any interracial couples. I love going to Boston or NYC or Montreal and seeing all of the interracial couples, the gay couples, the lesbian couples. I don’t feel like an outlier with my (different race) SO there! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-saw-two-guys-holding-hands-at-costco-today/723607.md?page=2)