# So, I stopped at McDonald's.  it had been a while

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 29, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027 "2016-05-29T19:38:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/61 "2016-05-30T20:07:09Z")

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I like Checkers. Grew up with them. I love their burgers and fries. Too bad they aren’t in my city.

I love McDonalds. There, I said it. I love just about everything on the menu.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/62 "2016-05-30T20:36:20Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> 1. While liking McDonald’s, I am the first to admit Burger King, Wendy’s, and Checkers have superior burgers and are the better option.

Nah, matter of taste. I’ll pick McD’s over BK’s 10 out of 10 times. (I do like some of their chicken products, though.) Wendy’s and Checkers, though, toss-up. It’ll depend on the burger.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/63 "2016-05-30T20:42:45Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> . . . Or that jalapeño McDouble they had in the past couple years–I was addicted to that. . . .

Hoykawow that was good! The combination of fresh jalapeno and fried jalapeno was umpty yummy!

For “real” hamburgers, Carl’s Jr. does a pretty good job. They have a couple of “Texas” bacon-topped burgers that are killer 'licious!

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/64 "2016-05-30T21:19:59Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> _ **Genuine** _ boiled ribs - yes.
> 
> Good for the femurs and xiphoid process.

Thanks… needed a chuckle today.

I have been BBQ’ing for about 50 years, but decided to seek some serious training about 8 years ago, so I started attending professional BBQ schools.

The first school was Jack’s Old South BBQ cooking school, ran by 3-time World Champion Myron Mixon.

The next was Smokin’ Trigger’s BBQ school, ran by 2-time World Champion (the Rib King) Johnny Trigg.

The last was the Paul Kirk BBQ cooking school ran by 7-time World Champion (and Julia Child’s former student) Paul Kirk.

Myron and Johnny are still active, and told me that the competitive BBQ circuit has suffered much the same fate as McDonalds; their customer base has fallen off and is populated by a non-sophisticated crowd.

The competition BBQ circuit is judged by people to take a 1-hour class, and then are turned loose to judge in these competitions. As Myron aptly puts it: “They’re not judges… they’re eaters!”

So, Myron and Johnny have taken to using additives, such as Minor’s Beef Base and Au Jus (which they inject into their briskets), phosphates, etc., to help them win these contests. And, with the novice judging, it works.

It’s sad.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/65 "2016-05-31T01:11:57Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> I am particularly fond of…big mac sauce

Curious as to how much it’s considered a “variant” of Thousand Islands dressing (The A + W Mozzabuger I’ll bet has the same slime-elixir.)

Never had a Big Mac, myself.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/66 "2016-05-31T01:20:52Z")

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Tastes fine to me. Don’t like it, don’t eat it.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/67 "2016-05-31T01:27:40Z")

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> [@syncrolecyne](#):
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> I sense that if I ate a Big Mac like that in the United States, I would be reported to the authorities and asked to leave.

Reported to Mayor McCheese?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/68 "2016-05-31T01:34:09Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> Curious as to how much it’s considered a “variant” of Thousand Islands dressing (The A + W Mozzabuger I’ll bet has the same slime-elixir.)

It’s basically mayo, sweet relish, and mustard, so, yeah, I’d call it a Thousand Island variant. No tomato products in it, though.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/69 "2016-05-31T01:35:28Z")

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If one has little kids, McDonald’s toys are generally much better than anyone else’s.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/70 "2016-05-31T05:56:28Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> It’s basically mayo, sweet relish, and mustard, so, yeah, I’d call it a Thousand Island variant. No tomato products in it, though.

Baloney!

Their sauce comes pre-made… no one is mixing it; so you have no idea what’s in it.

Not to be mean… but you should trying reading your posts before putting them up.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/71 "2016-05-31T06:22:12Z")

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> [@btcg](#):
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> Baloney!
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> Their sauce comes pre-made… no one is mixing it; so you have no idea what’s in it.
> 
> Not to be mean… but you should trying reading your posts before putting them up.

I knew it came pre-made. But it’s got to have something red in it. The sauce itself is orange. Maybe French dressing with mayo and relish?

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/72 "2016-05-31T06:28:43Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I knew it came pre-made. But it’s got to have something red in it. The sauce itself is orange. Maybe French dressing with mayo and relish?

Looks like the color comes from paprika and turmeric.

[BIG MAC SAUCE  
Ingredients: Soybean Oil, Pickle Relish (Diced Pickles, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Vinegar, Corn Syrup, Salt, Calcium Chloride, Xanthan Gum, Potassium Sorbate [Preservative], Spice Extractives, Polysorbate 80), Distilled Vinegar, Water, Egg Yolks, Onion Powder, Mustard Seed, Salt, Spices, Propylene Glycol Alginate, Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Mustard Bran, Sugar, Garlic Powder, Vegetable Protein (Hydrolyzed Corn, Soy and Wheat), Caramel Color, Extractives of Paprika, Soy Lecithin, Turmeric (Color), Calcium Disodium EDTA (Protect Flavor).](http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.burgerssandwiches.5.big-mac.html)

So…basically mayo, sweet relish, and mustard. And some paprika and turmeric

I think someone owes \*\*puly \*\*an apology.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/73 "2016-05-31T06:36:50Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Looks like the color comes from paprika and turmeric.
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> [BIG MAC SAUCE  
> Ingredients: Soybean Oil, Pickle Relish (Diced Pickles, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Vinegar, Corn Syrup, Salt, Calcium Chloride, Xanthan Gum, Potassium Sorbate [Preservative], Spice Extractives, Polysorbate 80), Distilled Vinegar, Water, Egg Yolks, Onion Powder, Mustard Seed, Salt, Spices, Propylene Glycol Alginate, Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Mustard Bran, Sugar, Garlic Powder, Vegetable Protein (Hydrolyzed Corn, Soy and Wheat), Caramel Color, Extractives of Paprika, Soy Lecithin, Turmeric (Color), Calcium Disodium EDTA (Protect Flavor).](http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.burgerssandwiches.5.big-mac.html)
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> So…basically mayo, sweet relish, and mustard. And some paprika and turmeric
> 
> I think someone owes \*\*puly \*\*an apology.

Yeah. you’re right… that’s obviously 3-4 ingredients.

Is there something in the water here?

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/74 "2016-05-31T07:33:27Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> I gave up McDonalds after a friend cooked me a burger using decent meat. It was gorgeous.

And that was how long ago? Until then, you only had burgers at McDonald’s? And you really thought that’s what burgers tasted like?

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/75 "2016-05-31T07:44:43Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And that was how long ago? Until then, you only had burgers at McDonald’s? And you really thought that’s what burgers tasted like?

Considering that there’s enough baloney going around here to make up at least a couple of dozen sandwiches’, you’re quite right on to call em out.

Hopefully, they get the message.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/76 "2016-05-31T07:45:58Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Another place a counter women saw me walking in with the cup and heding for the refill counter and yelled out “If you fill that, you’ll have to pay for it, I saw you bring it in.” She’s probably card me if I asked for senior discount.

So let’s see . . . how much of a senior discount would you be entitled to, for something you didn’t even pay for?

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/77 "2016-05-31T07:51:36Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> So let’s see . . . how much of a senior discount would you be entitled to, for something you didn’t even pay for?

Panache,

How dare you apply common sense. Who do you think you are? \</sarcasm\>

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/78 "2016-05-31T12:30:34Z")

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> [@btcg](#):
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> Yeah. you’re right… that’s obviously 3-4 ingredients.
> 
> Is there something in the water here?

Some of those are ingredients of mayonnaise, and the others ingredients of pickle relish and mustard.

Surely you didn’t think they get mayonnaise from the mayonnaise tree.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/79 "2016-05-31T12:42:52Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Surely you didn’t think they get mayonnaise from the mayonnaise tree.

Beauchemel we get from trees, mayonnaise is harvested from the flower-pods of the mayonnaise bush.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-i-stopped-at-mcdonalds-it-had-been-a-while/756027/80 "2016-05-31T13:07:01Z")

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> [@btcg](#):
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> Baloney!
> 
> Their sauce comes pre-made… no one is mixing it; so you have no idea what’s in it.
> 
> Not to be mean… but you should trying reading your posts before putting them up.

Um…okay, dude. 😕 My post is correct. Big Mac sauce is basically mayo, sweet relish, and mustard (and spices), which is exactly what your ingredients cite shows (what, you didn’t think I actually looked it up before posting it?) Not sure why this is causing such a strong reaction from you. Relax a bit, buddy.

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